# Today is the 20 year anniversary of Tupac's death. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900 "2016-09-14T01:01:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/1 "2016-09-14T01:01:28Z")
Hard to believe. Also this is his best song. There are a lot of good ones (brenda’s got a baby, pain, dear mama, hit em up, california love, etc). But Changes was his best. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vL5sdu3pNrU/hqdefault.jpg "Tupac-Changes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5sdu3pNrU) ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/2 "2016-09-14T01:03:04Z")
Jesus, I’m old. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/3 "2016-09-14T01:16:34Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > Jesus, I’m old. Old is not knowing any of his songs. I’m old. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/4 "2016-09-14T03:14:21Z")
Didn’t Tupac release more music after he died than when he was alive? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/5 "2016-09-14T03:22:01Z")
He had some meaningful and touching and insightful songs, some danceable ones, [but this song](https://youtu.be/41qC3w3UUkU), on the anniversary of his death, perfectly represents the war that killed him. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/6 "2016-09-14T11:47:46Z")
Tupac spelled backwards is “caput” (kaput). The wonderful world of gangsta rap where women are called prostitutes and female dogs while its practitioners kill each other off. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/7 "2016-09-14T17:17:50Z")
[Life Goes On](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho) was always my favorite non-angry song. One of his best little known tracks. The music, the lyrics, scenario all seem to resonate with me. I still think he’s the best ever. Em and Rak the only ones truly close. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/8 "2016-09-14T18:35:42Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Didn’t Tupac release more music after he died than when he was alive? [Tupac lives!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDdbn0eTDpA) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/9 "2016-09-15T01:34:59Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > [Life Goes On](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho) was always my favorite non-angry song. One of his best little known tracks. The music, the lyrics, scenario all seem to resonate with me. > > I still think he’s the best ever. Em and Rak the only ones truly close. Who is Rak? I’ve never heard of him/her. On the list of great Tupac songs, [I wonder if heaven got a ghetto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJTQ7FHx0o) is another great one. Thanks for that link **G0sp3l,** I’d never heard that song before but it was good. I love Tupac songs that have that kind of beat with a message. I know older generations always say this (say that music was better when they were teenagers), but rap was better in the 80s and 90s. Tupac did a lot of amazing music before he was 25. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/10 "2016-09-15T01:52:50Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Who is Rak? I’ve never heard of him/her. I assume [Rakim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakim). ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/11 "2016-09-15T01:55:51Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I assume [Rakim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakim). He ain’t no joke. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/12 "2016-09-15T15:35:15Z")
Yes, Rakim, sorry for the slang. _Music orientated so when hip hop was originated Fitted like pieces of puzzles complicated_ If he (Rakim) had given in and made his stuff a bit more commercial, he’d be a legend outside of hip-hop as well. I love _I Wonder if Heaven got a Ghetto_. I’m old and I definitely think hip-hop was better in the 80’s-90’s. The sweet spot, when the music got good lyrics and social awareness and before everyone started yapping about materiel. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/13 "2016-09-17T00:35:44Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Yes, Rakim, sorry for the slang. > > _Music orientated so when hip hop was originated > Fitted like pieces of puzzles complicated_ > > If he (Rakim) had given in and made his stuff a bit more commercial, he’d be a legend outside of hip-hop as well. > I love _I Wonder if Heaven got a Ghetto_. I’m old and I definitely think hip-hop was better in the 80’s-90’s. The sweet spot, when the music got good lyrics and social awareness and before everyone started yapping about materiel. NWA, Ice-T, Public Enemy, Tupac, Snoop. Apparently the late 80s and early 90s is considered a bona-fide golden age of hip hop. I can’t blame them. > **[Golden age hip hop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_hip_hop)** > > Golden age hip hop refers to mainstream hip hop music created from the mid or mid-late 1980s to the early or early-mid 1990s, particularly by artists and musicians originating from the New York metropolitan area. A precursor to the new-school hip hop movement, it is characterized by its diversity, quality, innovation and influence on overall hip hop after the genre's emergence and establishment in the old-school era, and is associated with the developmen The artists most often associated with t... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/14 "2023-09-29T20:35:30Z")
Bumping because there’s been a murder charge. > **[Witness to the 1996 drive-by shooting of Tupac Shakur indicted on murder...](https://apnews.com/article/tupac-shakur-killing-duane-keefe-davis-vegas-3f7050c2a68813d86a96b96fbb3f1d1a)** > > A grand jury in Las Vegas has indicted one of the last living witnesses to the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur in the rapper’s death. Duane “Keffe D” Davis was charged Friday with murder. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/15 "2023-09-29T20:59:57Z")
Documentary clip: > Duane “Keefe D” Davis, arrested today, is the only occupant of the car from which the shots were allegedly fired who is still alive. He stated that was in the front passenger seat and that the shooter was sitting in the backseat. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-is-the-20-year-anniversary-of-tupacs-death/765900/16 "2023-10-01T02:14:44Z")
Puff Daddy (P Diddty) is next.