# Today's Bible Lesson: "You Reap What You Sow."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [May 19, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112 "2020-05-19T14:35:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/61 "2020-05-22T16:06:27Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> The not-in-person meet-ups are in no way a substitute for the “real thing” but all three communities have sucked it up for now. That the faithful’s community is religious in no way makes their gathering any less of a bad idea. That they are putting not only themselves but the rest of us as well does not make the bad idea any better.

Don’t get me wrong – I think that in-person worship is, in most cases, a really bad idea right now. I was trying to explain why it’s so important to people of faith, and why suggestions like “just watch some evangelist on TV if you need church” are really poor substitutes.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/62 "2020-05-22T16:32:06Z")

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Yeah, this thread has some people talking about how meeting in person is really important to some people and “virtual church” isn’t the same at all, and other people talking about how in-person worship is a really bad, irresponsible idea right now, and **they’re both right**.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/63 "2020-05-22T17:15:56Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The idea that not going to church services harms the church community is silly, because the services are not where the community stuff happens. The services can very well be watched and participated in online, including the part where you talk aftrwards. And the community stuff can be replicated with online meetings. Sure, you lose some activities, but nothing of spiritual significance. …

Really it is not for you, or me, or anyone else, to speak to what is or is not of spiritual or community significance to someone else. Dismissing their lived experiences as “silly” is offensive.

Like much else about the response to this pandemic there may be compromises that can be made, ways to decrease risks to a point in which those for whom in person services are a vital part their quality of life can participate safely enough. Fewer in the building at a time more spread out with prerecorded music instead of a live choir and no singing, quiet spoken voices encouraged, masks required … might need shifts and/or streaming for those whose turn for live service it is not. Not sure if Italy is the model to follow but masses now “[are a go](https://cruxnow.com/church-in-europe/2020/05/masses-in-italy-are-a-go-but-other-sacraments-still-suffer-restrictions/)” there.

> [@](#):
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> … Mass attendees are required to wear masks, and in some cases gloves, they must stand at least three feet apart, there is no sign of peace and communion can only be received in the hand.
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> Though they were never suspended during Italy’s two-month lockdown, baptisms and weddings must also follow a strict protocol.
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> According to Avvenire, the official newspaper of the Italian bishops, practices vary depending on the individual diocese or parish, but for both weddings and baptisms, attendees must practice the general norms of social distancing and come equipped with proper personal protective gear.
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> For baptism, the bishops have generally discouraged full immersion, instead recommending that water is poured onto the head. The priest administering baptism must wear disposable gloves for the anointing, tossing them out after one use.
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> A bishop or pastor can add other requirements or restrictions as they see fit. …

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/64 "2020-05-22T19:23:57Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Don’t get me wrong – I think that in-person worship is, in most cases, a really bad idea right now. I was trying to explain why it’s so important to people of faith, and why suggestions like “just watch some evangelist on TV if you need church” are really poor substitutes.

The Pope disagrees. He thinks it is more important to stay alive.

Isn’t it nice when a religious leader is also a man of science?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/65 "2020-05-22T19:39:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The Pope disagrees. He thinks it is more important to stay alive.
> 
> Isn’t it nice when a religious leader is also a man of science?

The policy of the Catholic Church that he _still_ endorses opposing condom use has killed so many people that I think characterizing him as a “man of science” who thinks it is “important to stay alive” is laughable.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/66 "2020-05-22T19:45:11Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> The policy of the Catholic Church that he _still_ endorses opposing condom use have killed so many people that I think characterizing him as a “man of science” who thinks it is “important to stay alive” is laughable.

> **[The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/8148944/The-Pope-drops-Catholic-ban-on-condoms-in-historic-shift.html)**
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> The Pope has signalled a historic shift in the position of the Roman Catholic Church by saying condoms can be morally justified.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/67 "2020-05-22T19:51:05Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Yeah, this thread has some people talking about how meeting in person is really important to some people and “virtual church” isn’t the same at all, and other people talking about how in-person worship is a really bad, irresponsible idea right now, and **they’re both right**.

In multiple instances in this thread, the same person is saying both of these things. (Tips hat to **raspberry hunter** and **kenobi 65**. :))

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/68 "2020-05-22T20:18:54Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> [The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/8148944/The-Pope-drops-Catholic-ban-on-condoms-in-historic-shift.html)

Wow, thanks - I obviously had not seen that. Okay, my apologies to Pope Francis. A lot of damage already done, of course, but the past cannot be changed, so all I can do is thank him for having the wisdom and compassion to do the right thing.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/69 "2020-05-22T20:23:21Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> [The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/8148944/The-Pope-drops-Catholic-ban-on-condoms-in-historic-shift.html)

I’m confused though, that Telegraph article is behind a paywall, and there’s nothing at all about any change in policy on Wikipedia here, which I had actually checked before making my first comment.

> **[Catholic Church and HIV/AIDS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS)**
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> The Catholic Church is a major provider of medical care to HIV/AIDS patients. Much of its work takes place in developing countries, although it has also had a presence in the global north. Its opposition to condoms, despite their effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV, has invited criticism from public health officials and anti-AIDS activists.
> The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception includes a prohibition on condoms. It believes that chastity should be the primary means of preve...

Nor can I now find anything at all on a policy change by googling.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/70 "2020-05-22T20:57:00Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I’m confused though, that Telegraph article is behind a paywall, and there’s nothing at all about any change in policy on Wikipedia here, which I had actually checked before making my first comment.
> 
> [Catholic Church and HIV/AIDS - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS)
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> Nor can I now find anything at all on a policy change by googling.

Here’s a brief quote from the Telegraph article (which is dated 2010, and it was actually Pope Benedict who announced the policy change):

> [@The Telegraph](#):
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> After decades of fierce opposition to the use of all contraception, the Pontiff has ended the Church’s absolute ban on the use of condoms.
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> He said it was acceptable to use a prophylactic when the sole intention was to “reduce the risk of infection” from Aids.
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> While he restated the Catholic Church’s staunch objections to contraception because it believes that it interferes with the creation of life, he argued that using a condom to preserve life and avoid death could be a responsible act – even outside marriage.
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> Asked whether “the Catholic Church is not fundamentally against the use of condoms,” he replied: “It of course does not see it as a real and moral solution. In certain cases, where the intention is to reduce the risk of infection, it can nevertheless be a first step on the way to another, more humane sexuality.”
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> He stressed that abstinence was the best policy in fighting the disease but in some circumstances it was better for a condom to be used if it protected human life.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/71 "2020-05-23T07:49:33Z")

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**raspberry hunter** : You’ve checked [our church’s web site about returning to church meetings](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/safe-return-church-meetings-activities)? If you scroll down, you’ll see some photos exemplifying the right way to go about congregating in person. Here in Beijing, the church is beginning the process as the local police station has outlined it so we can meet, but it’s going to be a long process to get permission.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/72 "2020-05-23T18:35:05Z")

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[More than 40 diagnosed with COVID after Frankfurt church service](https://news.trust.org/item/20200523134545-hjpes/)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/73 "2020-05-23T19:24:35Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> [More than 40 diagnosed with COVID after Frankfurt church service](https://news.trust.org/item/20200523134545-hjpes/)

> [@](#):
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> “The situation is very dynamic,” Walczok told the paper, adding the church did not violate official guidelines aimed at containing the spread of the virus.

So, they were all masked and maintaining distance yet 40 individuals contracted the virus?

> [@](#):
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> “Most of them are not seriously ill. As far as we know only one person has been admitted to hospital,” Rene Gottschalk told the dpa agency.

What about whoever these 40 people infected?

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/74 "2020-05-23T19:44:47Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Yeah, this thread has some people talking about how meeting in person is really important to some people and “virtual church” isn’t the same at all, and other people talking about how in-person worship is a really bad, irresponsible idea right now, and **they’re both right**.

QFT.

There have been comparisons in this thread to activities like going to a gym, pointing out that “sure exercising at home doesn’t give the full experience, just as worshiping from home doesn’t give the full experience, but we all need to suck it up for the greater good.”

That’s true but I’m not sure that it gets to the heart of what some people in this thread, who feel a deep connection to in-person church-going, are saying. Religious people, correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you suggesting that there is something transcendent about the experience of worshiping together - a spiritual fulfillment that goes beyond the “mere” personal satisfaction that a gym enthusiast might get from the sights, sounds, and physical sensations of a gym visit?

Because if that’s the case, it’s still no reason for church worship to be exempt from the rules that other citizens are held to. My SO is an artist and likes to say, “art is my church.” He’s not being hyperbolic. For him, the opportunity to be in the physical presence of extraordinary art is life-affirming and joyful. Looking at on-line pictures of art wouldn’t begin to duplicate that experience.

He and his artist friends are not claiming that the ability to visit art museums is “essential” and that museums should be open because there is some special, ineffable quality to congregating in the presence of art - even though there is.

So I would submit that the OP is right in attributing “arrogance” to any church group that feels they must congregate in person because their religious impulse is somehow special and above the needs of us lowly non-religious types. I’m fine with people seeking meaning in life through religion (as long as it doesn’t spill over into marginalizing others, but that’s a different subject). But I’m not fine with the assumption that someone is a better person, deserving of more privileges even when those privileges have the capacity to harm others, because they find fulfillment in religion.

Environmental activism, or art, or feeding the homeless, or playing in an orchestra, or other activities that give meaning to the lives of people who participate, surely deserve to be treated the same as religious activities. Hell, if I were making government policy I’d allow groups to congregate to feed the homeless long before I’d allow groups to gather for worship or playing music.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/75 "2020-05-23T19:53:16Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> So, they were all masked and maintaining distance yet 40 individuals contracted the virus?

The article doesn’t say exactly what the “official guidelines aimed at containing the spread of the virus” are, that they were supposedly following. I wondered what measures they had been taking, and tried to search, but couldn’t find an answer.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/76 "2020-05-23T19:59:01Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> So, they were all masked and maintaining distance yet 40 individuals contracted the virus?

That line reminds me of the email message that HR recently sent out on my job, alerting us to the fact that an employee tested positive. He’s a coworker of mine, but I didn’t know that when I read the email since HR didn’t disclose the name. HR assured us that we were all safe because the employee had been wearing a mask while in the building and hadn’t been in contact with anyone while in the building. Since I didn’t know who the guy was, I believed the email. But later it came out who it was and I realized we’d been majorly lied too. Because I had seen him repeatedly the day before he got his positive test result and I never saw him wearing a mask. I saw him repeatedly because he’s the type of person who walks for exercise. He passed by my cubicle at least three times, startling me each time. I remember thinking to myself at the time that it would be messed-up if he was infected and spreading his infection to the few people unfortunate enough to have to be in the office.

But I’m not pissed at him. I’m pissed at HR for spreading bullshit lies. Maybe they were merely taking his word that he followed all the best practices, but they shouldn’t have done that. They could have at least reached out to the people who were on the same floor as him and recommended that we self-isolate. It would have been really nice for them to offer to test us as well.

It is possible the congregants got infected despite doing following all the best practices. But I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the church is claiming it followed all the best practices when really it didn’t.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/77 "2020-05-23T22:12:33Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Maybe they were merely taking his word that he followed all the best practices, but they shouldn’t have done that. They could have at least reached out to the people who were on the same floor as him and recommended that we self-isolate. It would have been really nice for them to offer to test us as well.

Do you work in the sort of place where you could bring your concerns to HR? Like, maybe if you pointed out to them that they should offer testing, they would?

Or are you gasping with laughter at the naive supposition that your HR might do the right thing?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/78 "2020-05-23T22:48:17Z")

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> [@raspberry\_hunter](#):
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> My church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) stopped services and any kind of in-person group meeting in mid-March.
> 
> It’s hard and Zoom meetings aren’t really a substitute. This is something that may be difficult for people who aren’t church-goers to understand (I certainly didn’t understand it before I started attending church regularly), but a big part of community is knowing the people in your community, being present in their lives, and the way that this is possible because of the way you interact at church – even if it’s only to exchange a couple of thoughts with the person you happen to pass in the hallway, it happens on a regular habit-forming basis, and so I know a lot about the people in my church community just from the little tidbits I get every week. And because of the way it’s set up so that we are all constantly serving each other, sometimes through extra-church service like offering to babysit for someone who really needs it, sometimes through intra-church service like how I put together musical numbers for services and other people teach my kiddos, etc.
> 
> Is it _possible_ to do community-building things and community service in a church community in the absence of church meetings and when we can’t personally visit with each other? Sure! I run a scripture-reading email discussion group, the kiddos’ church teacher left Easter treats on our doorstep, there are dinners being delivered to a new mother… But it’s isolating and it’s hard. Phone and Zoom have an activation energy that means it doesn’t lead to natural sharing the way that it sort of falls out naturally out of having regular church every week. And I’ve kind of lost touch with a bunch of people… I keep in touch with my good friends, but before church ended I could have told you in broad strokes what was going on in the lives of probably at least tens of people (this woman just had surgery, that man just got remarried, etc.), and now I just have no idea about what may have happened in the last couple of months (unless it was something big; new babies and deaths get sent out on the ward mailing list).
> 
> And we’re _not_ having church services and we _are_ sheltering in place, because we _do_ believe in protecting the weak and vulnerable. But there’s a very real deficit there that I’m not sure people understand who haven’t been part of a community like this. I know I wouldn’t have understood it if I weren’t part of one.
> 
> (Because I’m a weird heterodox person, I’m not even going to go into the Sacrament/communion and the meaningfulness it has that is very hard to replicate – if you want me to be totally honest I don’t care about it, but I know people who really really do.)
> 
> And we don’t pass a collection plate, either, so that’s not at all a thing.

I don’t think it’s that uncommon to be a part of a community like that. I have, and I’m not a church goer - and I know a lot of people that have that place that serves the function you describe.

The yoga studio where I took classes 4-5 times a week had that same function. I knew the other people that went there, I socialized with them, we chatted in the hallways before and after class, sometimes we went out after for coffee. If I went to a gym everyday instead I’d probably develop the same type of community within my gym.

I have friends that have weekly contra dances and they serve the same type of community function as church does for regular churchgoers. Basically, anyone that had any regular participation in any regular group activity based on common interests is going through the same thing.

AA meetings served the same function for my friends in AA - and the absence of regular in-person AA meetings has been hard for many of them.

I just don’t think that in the practical sense the community function of church is that special. But, that said - I’m a liberal but one with a libertarian streak - I’m not comfortable with legally requiring churches to close because religion. They should be strongly encouraged to close voluntarily and those that attend should be watched closely for COVID. But I have mixed feelings about the legal mandate.

I also feel that if we had an appropriate government response we could achieve close to 100% voluntary cooperation, but this is a QZ thread so I’m not going to elaborate.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/79 "2020-05-24T15:09:55Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I don’t think it’s that uncommon to be a part of a community like that. I have, and I’m not a church goer - and I know a lot of people that have that place that serves the function you describe.

Where this digression seems to have started was with **monstro** ’s suggested ways to get a good ole churching-up in the absence of being physically present at church services, and my objection that they were basically irrelevant to the essential attribute of church - participation in a faith community - and as such weren’t good or bad replacements for church, but not replacements in the least.

This was not intended as an argument that church services should continue: just a few posts earlier, I’d posted that:

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> As Jesus said, we do not worship the Lord on this mountain or in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth.
> 
> Jesus also said to love your neighbor as yourself. To put your own need (such as it is) to meet with fellow believers under one roof ahead of the well-being of the larger community is doing quite the opposite.

By the same logic as in my reply to monstro, I wouldn’t expect you or your friends to react kindly to suggestions that you watch videos of yoga classes or contra-dancing events, or the notion that doing that would even partly fill the void of not being able to do such things oneself. But such reactions wouldn’t in any way constitute an argument that contra-dancing and yoga classes should be exempt from limits on gatherings during the present health emergency.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-bible-lesson-you-reap-what-you-sow/854112/80 "2020-05-24T15:44:07Z")

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> By the same logic as in my reply to monstro, I wouldn’t expect you or your friends to react kindly to suggestions that you watch videos of yoga classes or contra-dancing events, or the notion that doing that would even partly fill the void of not being able to do such things oneself. But such reactions wouldn’t in any way constitute an argument that contra-dancing and yoga classes should be exempt from limits on gatherings during the present health emergency.

Sure, though I don’t see people storming their governors’ offices for the “right” to go to Pilates class. Most people I know are doing video or internet-based exercise classes now. It’s not the same thing, but it’s satisfactory.

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