Today's Bible Lesson: "You Reap What You Sow."

I was just going to say that my online Zoom yoga classes have been fine, although videotaped classes don’t work for me.
Actually the Zoom classes have been better than fine, simply because I can take classes from anywhere. Even though I live in N.C., I’ve been able to take classes at the places I went to when I lived in NY and with my yoga retreat group that’s based in Texas.

The gist of my post was simply to point out that the idea of fellowship wasn’t limited to churches.

But I’m also acknowledging that religion is different, legally if not practically and I’m not comfortable with forbidding services like they were yoga classes. But I think still think church services are a really bad idea, and churches, with their older congregations and singing and outloud praying are possibly the least safe place around.

I also think that with a responsible and consistent government response, we could have had close to 100% voluntary cooperation from churches, even evangelical ones. but again, I’m not going to elaborate in QZ.

" Church isn’t something you receive; it’s something you participate in."

Cue lengthy historical theological debate. Some say yes, some say no.

Coronavirus is something you receive from proximity from those who participate.

This is your opinion about what makes church “essential”. Plenty of other people would disagree with you that participation in the faith community requires a physical presence in a specific facility.

I did yoga for several years at a yoga studio. I can easily imagine my yoga instructor recommending to the class a yoga app to help us keep practicing during a lockdown. And you know what? I would accept this recommendation without a negative kneejerk reaction, because I would recognize that she wasn’t implying that a yoga app is a complete substitute for a real-live yoga class in a real-live yoga studio. I would understand that she was only presenting the yoga app as a tool. Plenty of yogis maintain their practice with similar tools, so why would I take offense to that kind of suggestion?

For lots of people, yoga is both a form of exercise and spiritual journey. But as susan pointed out, you don’t see yogis storming state capitals and declaring yoga an essential business. None of the yoga enthusiasts I know are flouting social distancing out of a belief that they will be protected from the virus through supernatural intervention. Plenty of churchgoers are doing these things. So forgive me for not being convinced that these folks are all being driven by an innocent need to participate in their respective faith communities. I really do think some of them are ignorant blowhards who don’t like a bunch of scientists telling them what to do.

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I’m going to say that my quarantine yoga experience isn’t less adequate than my real life experience. It’s just different. In many ways it’s better.

I’m taking classes with teachers I like that teach all across the country. I’m taking class and reconnecting with friends I haven’t seen in years . The variety of available classes is mind-blowing and i have more choices when it comes to times. I get to play my own music. I don’t have to drive anywhere to class and I don’t have to stress about being on time.

I admit I resisted the online classes for awhile, just because I didn’t think it would be the same. And it isn’t. But it’s just as good, if not better.

And I bet if some people wanted to try, they could find the same advantages in online church. Go to the church you used to go to before your last move. Go to church with your friends from across the country. Find the silver lining.

In civilized debate, the accepted practice is to wait until someone makes an assertion before disagreeing with them over it.

I could say the same thing to you. But I won’t because I’m trying to be a good Doper and not catch another warning.

Well, here’s a Pit thread where you won’t have to hold back.

Sorry, everyone, that this has taken up as much of this thread as it has.

Reopened SC church closes again after members exposed to coronavirus at services.

The article only says that the congregation (40 people) was exposed, not that any of them have tested positive yet. And even though the headline says “services”, the exposure only happened at one service–the one this past Sunday.

Oakland pastor recovers from COVID-19, urges churches not to reopen until it’s safe on fox9.com

There seem to be more stories like these lately. Pastors with stories like these on Fox News debunks the myth that coronavirus is not happening.

Even Sean Hannity is urging people to wear masks.

So weird to hear him say the right thing for once, but good on him for doing so.

Wonder what made the worm turn? It wasn’t so long ago he was in lockstep with COVID being a hoax.

Covid-19 must’ve hit someone he actually knows. That’s my WAG anyway.

Or he bought stock in 3M.

And if you read the First Amendment you’ll see that it doesn’t mention Pilates.
Religion is more deeply rooted in our society than pilates.

I agree that churches should remain closed, but I understand why that causes more pain than closing gyms.

(And in any case, no matter how much pain is caused, there is no excuse for carrying rifles to a rally. )

What do you mean? Pilates are right there in the Bible! Or at least one of them is…

I don’t.

If g-d knows all, sees all, people who believe in Him are going to church for the social part of it, not so He can see you doing so. Yes, it’s a very important part of their lives but is fear of g-d a bigger hill to (literally) die upon than fear of fat?

I didn’t go through this entire thread, but it is obvious to the cynical me that churches are about collecting money from the flock.

He was also a firm advocate for hand-washing.