# Today's Example of the Religion of Peace

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929 "2016-05-28T21:40:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/21 "2016-05-28T23:31:59Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> it looks more like the rejection of the simplistic bigotry of hating broad groups for the acts of specific people.
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> so not lame
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> this has proven to be so convincing in the past.

Actually, it looks like the exact same bigotry reflected onto a different group. But I’m sure it makes some people feel better, so there’s that.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/22 "2016-05-28T23:48:16Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> Go ahead.
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> Seriously, there’s nothing stopping you from offering a better rebuttal, **John**.

Personally, I’m not seeing anything that needs rebutting. As I already said, what those folks in Egypt did was terrible. Full stop. The fact that some Christians somewhere might have done something slightly similar is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/23 "2016-05-29T00:05:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Personally, I’m not seeing anything that needs rebutting. As I already said, what those folks in Egypt did was terrible. Full stop. The fact that some Christians somewhere might have done something slightly similar is irrelevant.

It’s not. Not at all. The OP’s point wasn’t that ‘these people did a terrible thing’. It was this paints their whole religion as a sham.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/24 "2016-05-29T00:09:39Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Actually, it looks like the exact same bigotry reflected onto a different group.

Really?  
I suppose this could be true if you are a stupid person who does not read , or you are someone who likes to come in and pretend to not understand so as to scold and wag your finger while playing stupid.

it is hard for me to think that these examples read seriously as argument that the christians are bad, contre “it is stupid to label large groups like ‘christians’ and muslims’ or the entirety of a religion for some acts”

since the op provided no comment on the gross behavior of the specific egyptian cretins and only a broad bigotted slam against the entire religion, it is quite reasonable to react to that.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/25 "2016-05-29T00:15:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Actually, it looks like the exact same bigotry reflected onto a different group. But I’m sure it makes some people feel better, so there’s that.

Only if you don’t understand what an analogy is. Which apparently you don’t. So I guess it has to be explained?

The point is to say that just as we don’t judge Christianity in general because of the actions of some of its adherents, and we don’t punish Christians who have done nothing wrong, or castigate them, we should not be judging the hundreds of millions of Muslims who have done nothing wrong based on the actions of a few people in the news.

Is that clear now?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/26 "2016-05-29T00:34:33Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m sure I’ll be going to the hell that doesn’t exist for this, but my first thought was: the High Sparrow strikes again!

_[For the night is dark and full of terrors.](https://youtu.be/_YmVI84iYOQ)_

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/27 "2016-05-29T01:08:17Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Perhaps not. But in his zest to show Islam as a vile, disgusting religion, he also used a site that shows that in America, we don’t tolerate them people who belong to that religion, but are just trying to go about their lives without bothering other people. The audacity of that woman!

That may be true, but it still doesn’t show a similar act as was done to an old lady by Christians parading her naked down the street while shouting “Praise be our Lord Jesus Christ”

A story like that would be necessary to compare like incidents.

I don’t think ripping off a head scarf, while vile and stupid, compares to parading a naked old woman down the street for something her son did.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/28 "2016-05-29T01:18:16Z")

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FFS! Do we really need to keep a score card?

And does it really matter if more Muslims committed more vile acts than Christians?  
No it doesn’t. The fact is, the majority of folks in both the Muslim and Christian camps just want to live their life and be left alone.

I wish some folks would stop trying to make the argument that there are more “evil” Muslims then there are “evil” Christians. As if that proves some significant point. Because it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/29 "2016-05-29T01:31:21Z")

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Well, I just assumed the OP meant Buddhist.

So I was wondering if Chihuahua had read the same post I had yesterday, that the pilots attacking Pearl Harbor were Buddhists. Since all the Buddhists I’ve ever met were ridiculously laid-back, that did blow my mind.

Now that might be worth starting a thread about. OP’s example… might not be.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/30 "2016-05-29T01:33:00Z")

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The Religion Of Peace, which religion practices that?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/31 "2016-05-29T01:53:56Z")

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Bueller?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/32 "2016-05-29T01:56:41Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Bueller?

Bueller is a religion?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/33 "2016-05-29T02:00:43Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> That may be true, but it still doesn’t show a similar act as was done to an old lady by Christians parading her naked down the street while shouting “Praise be our Lord Jesus Christ”
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> A story like that would be necessary to compare like incidents.
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> I don’t think ripping off a head scarf, while vile and stupid, compares to parading a naked old woman down the street for something her son did.

I wasn’t trying to suggest that they were 100% equal; just that non-Muslims in the USA were also capable of doing stupid things.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/34 "2016-05-29T02:05:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Bueller is a religion?

Of the Twist, and by the Shout. And as peaceful as any of the rest of them.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/35 "2016-05-29T02:19:40Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I wasn’t trying to suggest that they were 100% equal; just that non-Muslims in the USA were also capable of doing stupid things.

I agree that non-Muslims in the USA are also capable of doing stupid things. But comparing two things that were maybe 1% equal seems to deflate your argument.

I wouldn’t try to wave away such an atrocious act by showing that OTHER stupid people also do stupid things.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/36 "2016-05-29T02:30:09Z")

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So who’s the religion of peace, then? Can an organized religion, with a straight face, claim that title?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/37 "2016-05-29T02:32:06Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So who’s the religion of peace, then? Can an organized religion, with a straight face, claim that title?

Zoroastrianism?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/38 "2016-05-29T03:08:05Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So who’s the religion of peace, then? Can an organized religion, with a straight face, claim that title?

Jainism might qualify. Of course, it has like five adherents…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/39 "2016-05-29T03:13:41Z")

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Atheism is a non-religion of peace.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-example-of-the-religion-of-peace/755929/40 "2016-05-29T03:23:10Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Atheism is a non-religion of peace.

You do not want to meet some of my friends… tell them they actually have as much faith as a Theist, and they’ll cut you.

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