# Today's NY Times book review \[Hitler: Ascent 1889-1939, by Volker Ullrich\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136 "2016-09-28T18:15:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/21 "2016-09-29T00:58:59Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > I But–and this is clearly and important but–he had previously raised an army of brownshirts. And that is one thing Trump has not done. > > I think Trump is dangerous, but I also think he is too feeble mentally to carry off anything like that. He would lose focus and interest. I think there is an army of heavily armed tea partiers and white supremacists who would love to step into the role if they could be sure the police would not stand in their way. Trump could start them off by asking them to check on those rapist Mexicans and other unsavory immigrants - just to be sure nothing happens, of course. But if there was someone smart pulling Trump’s strings I’d be more worried. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/22 "2016-09-29T01:15:42Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > I think Trump is dangerous, but I also think he is too feeble mentally to carry off anything like that. He would lose focus and interest. > [@Velocity](#): > > 1. Trump is utterly unfocused, scatterbrained and all over the place. Hitler, on the hand, was focused and knew what he wanted. Also, Hitler was far more intelligent than Trump. > [@Voyager](#): > > But if there was someone smart pulling Trump’s strings I’d be more worried. My answer to all of that is one of the most famous and powerful of the hundreds of corollaries to Murphy’s Law, which particular corollary has many variants but is generally stated as “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. One might restate it for the present purpose as “never underestimate the power of stupidity to wreak total havoc”. In this case, the stupidity has the added impetus of callousness, greed, narcissism, bigotry, and misogyny. So I think the motto of the Trump campaign should be: “Trump for president: what could possibly go wrong?” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/23 "2016-09-29T01:38:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > My answer to all of that is one of the most famous and powerful of the hundreds of corollaries to Murphy’s Law, which particular corollary has many variants but is generally stated as “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. > > One might restate it for the present purpose as “never underestimate the power of stupidity to wreak total havoc”. > > In this case, the stupidity has the added impetus of callousness, greed, narcissism, bigotry, and misogyny. So I think the motto of the Trump campaign should be: > > “Trump for president: what could possibly go wrong?” That’s why President Trump would get us into a war. Not from deliberately invading someone, but by saying something to make Putin, say, think we were fine with him retaking the Baltic States. Dumb things diplomats said helped start the Korean War and Iraq I. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/24 "2016-09-29T10:56:16Z")
There’s an interesting piece in the _New Yorker_ that seems pertinent here. It’s about Frauke Petry, the leader of a new far-right German party called the AfD, for _Alternative für Deutschland_. Petry is educated and a qualified chemist; she is also a global warming denier, a fervent nationalist, and a bigot. She’s sort of like Donald Trump with a brain, but some of the similarities are quite startling. And the Nazi comparisons somehow don’t seem all that far-fetched here. Aiman Mazyek, the head of the Muslim Central Council, has publicly compared the AfD to the Nazis. “The AfD uses the refugee crisis to foment a propaganda of fear in the minds of its followers. Insults and daily Islamophobia have led to the desecration of houses of worship, and bullying in the streets.” The article also cites a member of the executive board of the German Bundesbank who argued in a bestselling book published in 2010 that everything from high immigrant crime rates to low test scores among Muslims could be partly traced to genetic factors. But perhaps the most disturbing is the rise in violence against the recent influx of refugees: According to an estimate by the German Interior Ministry, violence against foreigners increased by more than forty per cent last year. There were six hundred and sixty-five assaults on asylum shelters—an average of almost two a day—including fifty-five cases of arson, and there were more than a hundred attacks on individuals. > **[The New Star of Germany’s Far Right](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/03/the-new-star-of-germanys-far-right)** > > Frauke Petry is a mother, a scientist, and the leader of the country’s most successful nationalist phenomenon since the Second World War. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/25 "2016-09-29T13:05:51Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > He is saying that Trump is a narcissistic, self-serving demagogue with many similarities to Hitler, and whose unlikely success has been driven, as Hitler’s was, by a disaffected populace unhappy with the _status quo_. > > The fact that bigotry and other repellent viewpoints are front and center of the Trump platform and that he has the overt and enthusiastic support of white supremacists should be major red flags. So should the fact that his extreme aversion to criticism – the kind that has spawned a multitude of lawsuits by Trump against almost anyone who has ever opposed him – has driven him to suggest that if elected [he will curb the freedom of the press](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment) to engage in such criticism. > > The silliness and hyperbole of suggesting that Trump is the next Hitler and will turn the US into a replica of Nazi Germany should not obfuscate the fact that the man would, if elected, promote those repellent values. The actual threat to democracy is probably small although not non-existent – any democracy can be undermined and eventually destroyed by being chipped away one hammer-blow at a time, day after day and year after year. But the greater immediate threat that Trump poses is to the economy, to international relations, to social values and social stability, and to specific policy issues like immigration and race relations. Thank you WolfPup. You explained what I meant much better than I was able to. By saying the election will be rigged, Trump is sort of inviting an army of brownshirts to form, but there is no organization among them. And too many are old farts like me who would be reluctant to get involved. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/26 "2016-09-29T13:24:35Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Five reasons why Trump isn’t Hitler 2.0: > > 1. Trump is utterly unfocused, scatterbrained and all over the place. Hitler, on the hand, was focused and knew what he wanted. Also, Hitler was far more intelligent than Trump. > > 2. There has already been a Hitler, and people know history. > > 3. Trump isn’t a warmonger or conqueror (except for talking about 'bombing the shit out of ISIS"); if anything, Trump is isolationist. > > 4. There are numerous ways that a governmental system like the US would restrain or depose or obstruct a rogue president like Trump. > > 5. Trump will never command anywhere near the support that Hitler had. “Better than Hitler” is clearing literally the lowest bar there is. If Trump is even 1% as bad as Hitler, that would be disastrous for the country and the world. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/27 "2016-09-29T13:57:13Z")
> [@doubleminus](#): > > But a majority of the American people (Trump + Bernie) want a real major overhaul of the country and the political system and HRC is boring them with facts. Like Obama’s “you can’t make a 90-degree turn in a cruise ship”? Cuz that’s like, true. I fear reformers from any part of the political spectrum, because they all see their tool as a sledgehammer. ---
**Author:** ![doubleminus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@doubleminus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doubleminus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/28 "2016-09-29T15:12:20Z")
20 years ago, during the other Clinton epoch, a few degrees left on the tiller might have sufficed. Today, even a 90 degree attempt might not be enough to avoid the iceberg. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/29 "2016-09-29T15:21:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Of course, anything is possible. Can you outline how that happens? I can try. Mind you, it’s far from certainty and admittedly highly unlikely, but… 1. Trump is elected president (Yeah, I know… don’t fight the hypothetical.) 2. He appoints people like Roger Ailes, Bannon, Coulter, Hannity, Giuliani, and various other deplorables to cabinet positions. Many of which he invents to fill out his ranks and insulate himself from critics. 3. Rank and file republicans, either because of lack of courage or because they are opportunists, fall in line. 4. Ultra conservative Supreme Court judges are pushed through congress and appointed. 5. Civil rights of those opposed to Trump and his policies are methodically abridged. 6. Government becomes authoritarian while regulatory branches of gov’t are shut down because, ‘wasteful!’. 7. Generals who favour Trump are appointed to positions of command in the military. 8. It all goes pear shaped for the opposition as more and more oppressive laws are passed and enforced while freedom of the press is methodically supressed. 9. Panic in the streets. 10. Cats sleeping with dogs. 11. It all goes to 11. Now, will rational and sober minds step in long before this happens and impeach Trump? One would certainly like to believe this to be true - balance of power, checks and balances and all. But how certain are you that will happen? Because if he wins, that means a majority of the electorate is in support of Trump and his policies and oppose any restraint measures that might be placed on him. Nightmare scenario? Sure. But completely out of the question? You tell me. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/30 "2016-09-29T15:50:32Z")
> [@doubleminus](#): > > 20 years ago, during the other Clinton epoch, a few degrees left on the tiller might have sufficed. Today, even a 90 degree attempt might not be enough to avoid the iceberg. History is always a matter of vectors. But breaking off the tiller won’t help, either. We got here slowly; we can only get onto some better course slowly. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/31 "2016-09-29T20:39:48Z")
It’s not that Trump literally is Hitler. It’s just that he’s the most like Hitler of any presidential candidate, at least, in my lifetime. Plus, this year I’ve learned how fragile our democracy actually is. There are no checks on the President’s nuclear power, and nothing to enforce Supreme Court decisions on the Executive branch. And there are certain emergency powers already granted by Congress, a Congress that rules it quite difficult to pass anything. What has saved us in the past is merely gentleman’s agreements, and Trump is about as far from a gentleman as possible. Plus an electorate that would not elect someone like him. Finally, there’s just the fact that Trump is saying blatantly evil things and still getting support. I’ve never seen this happen. I’ve never seen anyone allowed to lie like he does, or spread hatred like he does. Usually people reject that. Hitler is about the only other example I can think of that most people have heard of. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/32 "2016-10-01T22:54:01Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > President Trump wouldn’t have 1/2 the popular support of Hitler, and would be subject to checks and balances. > [@Velocity](#): > > 1. Trump will never command anywhere near the support that Hitler had. Hitler got 36.8% of the vote in the last election that Germany held (vs. 53% for his opponent). Trump is already around 40-43% support at this time. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/33 "2016-10-01T23:21:49Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I can try. Mind you, it’s far from certainty and admittedly highly unlikely, but… > > 1. Trump is elected president (Yeah, I know… don’t fight the hypothetical.) > 2. He appoints people like Roger Ailes, Bannon, Coulter, Hannity, Giuliani, and various other deplorables to cabinet positions. Many of which he invents to fill out his ranks and insulate himself from critics. > 3. Rank and file republicans, either because of lack of courage or because they are opportunists, fall in line. > 4. Ultra conservative Supreme Court judges are pushed through congress and appointed. > 5. Civil rights of those opposed to Trump and his policies are methodically abridged. > 6. Government becomes authoritarian while regulatory branches of gov’t are shut down because, ‘wasteful!’. > 7. Generals who favour Trump are appointed to positions of command in the military. > 8. It all goes pear shaped for the opposition as more and more oppressive laws are passed and enforced while freedom of the press is methodically supressed. > 9. Panic in the streets. > 10. Cats sleeping with dogs. > 11. It all goes to 11. > > Now, will rational and sober minds step in long before this happens and impeach Trump? One would certainly like to believe this to be true - balance of power, checks and balances and all. But how certain are you that will happen? Because if he wins, that means a majority of the electorate is in support of Trump and his policies and oppose any restraint measures that might be placed on him. > > Nightmare scenario? Sure. But completely out of the question? You tell me. Conservative judges tend to reign in the power of the federal government. If Trump wanted to pull a Hitler, why would he appoint them? Hitler increased centralized control over the economy, far from eliminating “wasteful” regulatory agencies. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/34 "2016-10-01T23:28:29Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Conservative judges tend to reign in the power of the federal government. If Trump wanted to pull a Hitler, why would he appoint them? Hitler increased centralized control over the economy, far from eliminating “wasteful” regulatory agencies. Appoint judges who will agree with him, no matter what. Eliminate agencies that he does not like. Increase funding for what he does like. Increase funding for “Law and Order” agencies. Create new ones if needed. The list forgot some very important steps: - Manufacture a “crisis” that your opponents have created/fomented - Accuse your opponents of trying to destroy the country - Use your new powers and your new “law and order” agencies to reign in/control/eliminate your opponents. For the good of the country. At this point, it’s too late to go back. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/35 "2016-10-02T03:57:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Appoint judges who will agree with him, no matter what. > > Eliminate agencies that he does not like. Increase funding for what he does like. Increase funding for “Law and Order” agencies. Create new ones if needed. > > The list forgot some very important steps: > > - Manufacture a “crisis” that your opponents have created/fomented > - Accuse your opponents of trying to destroy the country > - Use your new powers and your new “law and order” agencies to reign in/control/eliminate your opponents. For the good of the country. > > At this point, it’s too late to go back. Sounds pretty fantastical. The real world dangers to the long term strength of the USA are left wing economic ideas that drive corporations to move operations and profits overseas where regulatory burdens are much less onerous. This isn’t directly post WWII and the USA isn’t the only viable industrial power. The biggest danger Trump promotes is the idea that the US ought to renegotiate debt. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/36 "2016-10-02T12:37:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Of course, anything is possible. Can you outline how that happens? Why is it necessary? Nobody can predict how it unfolds – the point is that there are very clear parallels. Personally I am not as much frightened by Trump as I am by Trumpism, which I would loosely define or describe as a continuation of its precursor movements such as the Tea Party. Even if we’re not becoming Nazi America, we could become post-Reconstruction America. We have a history, and an occasionally chaotic and violent one at that. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/37 "2016-10-02T12:42:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If you put all the “charismatic leaders” together, good and bad, it would be easy to come up with a list of common traits. That is not to say that Trump is good, but it is to say that common traits don’t mean all that much in telling you one way or another. > > There is much to criticize Trump about. Trump is Trump, with not many redeeming features. Throwing “Hitler” in there is a good way of making sure most people will dismiss your criticism. And rightly so. Trump isn’t an ideologue, but some of his followers are. He is giving the worst kinds of people a platform on which to speak and an opportunity to thrust toxic ideas into the mainstream of consciousness. This has many parallels to Nazi Germany even if we ultimately elect a president that goose steps. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/38 "2016-10-02T12:51:13Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > There’s an interesting piece in the _New Yorker_ that seems pertinent here. It’s about Frauke Petry, the leader of a new far-right German party called the AfD, for _Alternative für Deutschland_. Petry is educated and a qualified chemist; she is also a global warming denier, a fervent nationalist, and a bigot. She’s sort of like Donald Trump with a brain, but some of the similarities are quite startling. And the Nazi comparisons somehow don’t seem all that far-fetched here. Aiman Mazyek, the head of the Muslim Central Council, has publicly compared the AfD to the Nazis. “The AfD uses the refugee crisis to foment a propaganda of fear in the minds of its followers. Insults and daily Islamophobia have led to the desecration of houses of worship, and bullying in the streets.” > > The article also cites a member of the executive board of the German Bundesbank who argued in a bestselling book published in 2010 that everything from high immigrant crime rates to low test scores among Muslims could be partly traced to genetic factors. But perhaps the most disturbing is the rise in violence against the recent influx of refugees: > According to an estimate by the German Interior Ministry, violence against foreigners increased by more than forty per cent last year. There were six hundred and sixty-five assaults on asylum shelters—an average of almost two a day—including fifty-five cases of arson, and there were more than a hundred attacks on individuals. > [The New Star of Germany’s Far Right | The New Yorker](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/03/the-new-star-of-germanys-far-right) We’re seeing the end of the post-WWII global world order. American / Western-led globalization is perceived increasingly as a failure. With global terrorism, global financial crises, refugee crises, and the loss of jobs in industrialized countries to those in poorer countries, people are understandably skeptical of the experts. In the eyes of many, the experts have failed - failed to distribute the benefits of globalism evenly as was promised. People are rebelling against the experts, in Germany, in Britain, in the United States. Elsewhere, people are increasingly doubtful that America can really protect them against neighboring adversaries. Japan is doubting. Korea is doubting. Eastern Europe doubts. SE Asia has doubts. Others doubt that the United States is a global partner. Russia doubted this a while ago. Turkey warms to Russia. The Philippines throws us shade. Pax Americana is crumbling, and in this light, I can understand Trump’s appeal. And I can’t say that Hillary Clinton necessarily has all the right answers. But I am reasonably confident that Donald Trump has all the wrong ones. ---
**Author:** ![StrangeBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@StrangeBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrangeBird)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/39 "2016-10-02T23:54:12Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > And all you disaffected millenials who think to cast a protest vote. All the figures I have seen suggest that those planning to vote for Trump’s skew towards older voters, not Millenials. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136/40 "2016-10-03T00:22:53Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > It does seem to go out on a [limn](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/09/michiko-kakutani-limn-jk-rowling-review.html). FTR, and nothing personal, but I hate you. Just so we have that clear. 😉 > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > “Ich wusste Adolph Hitler. Adolf Hitler war ein Freund von mir. Donald Trump, du bist kein Adolf Hitler.” -Ghost of Goebbels Wrong. Göbbels would have used the ß. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/todays-ny-times-book-review-hitler-ascent-1889-1939-by-volker-ullrich/767136.md?page=3)