# Token chinese

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [November 23, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635 "2024-11-23T01:03:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/21 "2024-11-23T01:32:04Z")

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Well i’m here to oblige, state your wish, and it will come true

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/22 "2024-11-23T01:32:51Z")

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…Any movie produced in any country is highly likely to include actors from that country. How is this supposed to be noteworthy?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/23 "2024-11-23T01:33:10Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> Any chinese produced movie MUST have at least one chinese actor (good or bad).

GASP!

By any chance do your remember Superman the Movie from 1978? It was produced by Alexander Salkind, a Polish-born Russian who lived in France, and featured such notables as Trevor Howard, Maria Schell, Terrance Stamp, Susanah York, and Sarah Douglas.  
Salkind’s son, Ilya, produced 1973’s the Three Musketeers, which starred Oliver Reed, Micahel York, and Christopher Lee.

Clearly those damn Europeans took over American movies! The industry never recovered.

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/24 "2024-11-23T01:36:18Z")

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I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/25 "2024-11-23T01:36:22Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Terrance Stamp

Terence Stamp was in the far superior _Superman II_, Mr. Clark. It was superior because of Stamp as General Zod.

I will note, that the Superman films are another example of this trend the OP is talking about, as they are Kryptonian and must feature at least one Kryptonian character. That is simply outrageous!

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/26 "2024-11-23T01:40:16Z")

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He’s in the **opening scene** of _Superman: The Movie,_ being sentenced to the Phantom Zone by Joe-El.

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/27 "2024-11-23T01:41:13Z")

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[quote=“Kent\_Clark, post:23, topic:1010635”]  
Terrance Stamp  
Terrance Stamp played in “Link” 1986, with what they said was apes imported from asia, most likely china. There it started 🙃

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/28 "2024-11-23T01:43:45Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I like Chinese food. Especially Hunan.

This post really needed a typo.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/29 "2024-11-23T01:44:15Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> I have to repeat

Do you? Do you really?

> [@Loggins](#):
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> the chinese are our enemy.

Well thank god Token is black, not Chinese.

> **[Tolkien Black](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_Black)**
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> Token (Tolkien) Black is a fictional character in the adult animated television series South Park. He was voiced by Trey Parker in early appearances, but South Park art director Adrien Beard took over in 2000 and has performed the character since.
> Originally the character was named "Token Williams" and then "Token Black", as a play on tokenism. His name was retconned in the episode "The Big Fix" to Tolkien, named after J. R. R. Tolkien.
> Tolkien attends South Park Elementary, he initially is a t...

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/30 "2024-11-23T01:44:33Z")

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explain?

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/31 "2024-11-23T01:46:26Z")

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yes i thought of that especially

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/32 "2024-11-23T01:56:51Z")

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I stand corrected; he was in that film very briefly.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/33 "2024-11-23T01:59:59Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> He’s in the **opening scene** of _Superman: The Movie,_ being sentenced to the Phantom Zone by Joe-El.

Oh man, that scene freaked me right out. I was young and knew nothing about Superman except the names of some characters. Looking at that spectacle on the big screen is a cherished, forever movie memory. Thanks for reminding me.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/34 "2024-11-23T02:02:11Z")

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First of all, China is our rival, not our enemy. There’s a big difference.

Second, even if China were our enemy, how is it at all relevant that Chinese movies have Chinese actors in them?

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/35 "2024-11-23T02:22:55Z")

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It’s been a while since we’ve had any good provocive around here.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/36 "2024-11-23T02:50:14Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Second, even if China were our enemy, how is it at all relevant that Chinese movies have Chinese actors in them?

Because, you simpleton, _race matters_, and we need to hold anyone of Chinese descent responsible for what China does **or they win**.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/37 "2024-11-23T03:01:43Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> See i capitalized You 😉

In Soviet Russia…oh, never mind.

> [@Superdude](#):
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> Great. Now I want BBQ.

Those boneless Chinese spare ribs are really tasty!

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/38 "2024-11-23T03:04:26Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> provocive

You aren’t kidding, there is no povocive like the old provocive. The provocive back in the early 2000s was the best. Because it was all imported from China and Albania. Personally, I found the Albanian provocive to be more thoughtful and heartfelt. The chinese provocive was just too amercanized. But Your mileage may vary.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/39 "2024-11-23T03:09:49Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> This is BBQ so why not ask difficult questions, **provocive** even.

Is this some strange new usage of the word “covfefe” I’m not aware of?

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/40 "2024-11-23T03:24:50Z")

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Sorry, it’s Jor-El. Joe-El drives a pick up truck and works at Kandor Auto Repairs.

(Actually, not your fault — autocorrect changed it to Joe-el for me as well. Whatta PITA!)

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