# Token chinese **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [November 23, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635 "2024-11-23T01:03:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/41 "2024-11-23T03:45:45Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > The chinese are the enemies of the West Not just the government of the People’s Republic of China? The Chinese people as a whole? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/42 "2024-11-23T03:49:27Z")
Shouldn’t this thread be in Cafe Society, what with it being about movies? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/43 "2024-11-23T03:58:59Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis And yet I love me some Orange Beef. And all kinds of Dim Sum. But potato sausage? Pickled herring? And the nasty lingonberries? Hard nope. Conclusion - China is wonderful, scandinavia sucks and is the enemy of the world. And Ingmar Bergman was a huge, pretentious bore. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/44 "2024-11-23T04:08:18Z")
Take that back! He wasn’t that big at all. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/45 "2024-11-23T04:08:34Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > And Ingmar Bergman was a huge, pretentious bore. But… But… But! I like Bergman movies! (Am I supposed to complain about there being token swedish actors in his movies now?) 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/46 "2024-11-23T04:10:39Z")
Are Chinese tokens just good for buses, or can they be used for trains too? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/47 "2024-11-23T04:12:21Z")
His movies caused hundreds of artsy New Yorkers to suffer major depression so I hate him with the white hot passion of 1000 suns. And don’t get me started on that shit Jean Sibelius. I’ll take a million Chinese over these despicable scandinavians. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/48 "2024-11-23T04:18:35Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are Chinese tokens just good for buses, or can they be used for trains too? You would probably have a hard time finding a train _or_ bus in China when tokens were in use. > **[Chinese Tokens](https://primaltrek.com/token.html)** > > Images and history of old Chinese tokens with charm > and amulet features ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/49 "2024-11-23T04:19:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are Chinese tokens just good for buses, or can they be used for trains too? One can also play checkers with them, I hear. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/50 "2024-11-23T04:20:39Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > the chinese are our enemy. The Chinese government may be your enemy or at least a fierce rival. The Chinese people as a whole are _not_ your enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/51 "2024-11-23T04:38:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Loggins](#): > > > > The chinese are the enemies of the West > > Not just the government of the People’s Republic of China? The Chinese people as a whole? Wouldn’t that be one type of CRT? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/52 "2024-11-23T05:06:22Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > The chinese are the enemies of the West. So it should be a timely discussion Really? So you hate all people who are Chinese? So you hate all people who are Americans who have Chinese ancestry even in a small part? So you hate people who, to your eyes, even look like they might be Chinese? Well, Loggins, I’m starting to think that the problem might just not be theirs… but be yours. [www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gIqvLCPs4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gIqvLCPs4) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/53 "2024-11-23T05:27:02Z")
What about token Chinese milk? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lJ3VGAaCBZM/maxresdefault.jpg "Transformers Dark of the Moon Best Scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3VGAaCBZM) ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/54 "2024-11-23T05:31:32Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Today, the chinese have taken over Hollywood. Any chinese produced movie MUST have at least one chinese actor (good or bad). A Scandanavian complaining about Chinese produced movies in the United States and springboarding to use this to condemn all things Chinese. The levels of irony are astounding. Write back when the Scandinavian movie industry is relevant and stop leeching off of my 'Murican entertainment industry you filthy Scandinavian. Sorry, scandinavian. I have no respect for scandanavia, so no reason for capitalization. In the meantime, you can take my Chinese fried rice from my cold, dead hands. Hmm, crap, you know what? I can’t even take the piss with Scandanavian capitalization sarcasm. It seems the OP has no respect for his own heritage either, what other conclusion is one supposed to draw from these statements: > [@Loggins](#): > > I have no respect for china. Living with a HongKong Sister-in-law. So no reason for capitalizing. > [@Loggins](#): > > I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/55 "2024-11-23T06:18:42Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis Through their movies? That’s pretty clever. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/56 "2024-11-23T06:28:59Z")
OP is heading to…_The Danger Zone!_ ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/57 "2024-11-23T06:50:44Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > The Chinese government may be your enemy or at least a fierce rival. The Chinese people as a whole are _not_ your enemy. Definitely enemy for us (with my Taiwanese family and friends), and a potential enemy for Japan, as well as a rival. It’s complicated. But I agree with you that it’s not the Chinese people who are the enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/58 "2024-11-23T13:12:07Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > [@Loggins](#): > > > > I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis > > Through their movies? That’s pretty clever. First they came for Sierra Leone’s t-shirts and I didn’t speak up… > [@Does anyone know what the deal is behind the recent East Asia trend, especially in media?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638): > > I’m new here. I regret having to join a message board in order to satisfy my curiosity on a topic, but I just couldn’t find any real discussion of it anywhere (which I find a bit bewildering). I’m not sure exactly when this trend began - somehow I missed out on it (probably due to the fact that I’ve been living in Sierra Leone in recent years) - but there has clearly been a huge upsurge of East Asians (most especially of the Chinese variety) in US media in general. More interestingly, East Asia… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/59 "2024-11-23T15:46:07Z")
Or at least a token eggroll. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/60 "2024-11-23T17:16:55Z")
I think there are some issues with Hollywood movies and the hoops American producers jump through to tap into the Chinese market. Chinese produced movies will, of course, most often have Chinese producers, directors, actors, stunt persons, etc., etc. _Kug-Fu Hustle_ was great! But they also use international stars from time-to-time. Cynthia Rothrock starred in several Hong Kong action movies in the 80s and 90s. I’m guessing some of the frustration stems from the fact that for decades Americans didn’t worry about the foreign market for their movies. If _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ did well in India that was nice but it wasn’t necessary for the success of the film. In recent years, the foreign market, China in particular, is viewed as necessary for the financial success of a movie so producers make films with Chinese preferences in mind. Part of what some Americans are feeling is the same frustration smaller countries have felt regarding the dominance of Hollywood. But there is a sinister side. If you want to do business in China you’ve got to partner with a Chinese company, and the government only allows a certain number of foreign movies in. Of course you have to submit your script to Chinese censors who will approve of or ask for changes to be made. There’s a reason the The Ancient, a Tibetian character in the comic, was changed to a Celtic character played by Tilda Swinton in the Dr. Strange movie. I don’t really blame the Chinese government for this. I blame Hollywood producers who are feckless and willing to kowtow to a terribly oppressive government just so long as they can make a buck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635.md?page=4)