# Token chinese **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [November 23, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635 "2024-11-23T01:03:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/81 "2024-11-24T06:01:52Z")
Mr. President, we must not allow a movie reel gap! ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/82 "2024-11-24T06:09:38Z")
Im talking about the chines government, not the chinese or Taiwan people. At least in my country, we get chinese cyber attacks from time to time. China is supporting Russia in the attack against Ukraine, so yes, i would call them our enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/83 "2024-11-24T06:20:13Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Im talking about the chines government, not the chinese or Taiwan people. And yet you said; > [@Loggins](#): > > The chinese are the enemies of the West. Not “China” or “the government of the PRC” or even “the CCP” - the Chinese. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/84 "2024-11-24T07:58:59Z")
Just to play Devil’s advocate here: in the various threads on the invasion of Ukraine, the term “Russians” is used regularly to refer to either the Russian government or the Russian military. How is that any different? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/85 "2024-11-24T08:21:36Z")
Most practically, recognizing their longstanding ethno-nationalistic agenda. They were called “Russians” even back when they were the USSR, because Russia and the Russians _were_ the ones in charge. That’s a major part of their invasion of Ukraine, even. The problem with the OP isn’t using the term “Chinese”, it’s not even _mentioning_ the government until other posters pestered it out of them, and the weird insistence on not capitalizing the word. People say “Russian”, true; but they _also_ say “Putin” or “the Kremlin”. And they capitalize it. ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/86 "2024-11-24T08:22:33Z")
I apologiza for not being clear in my post. Yes i meant china ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/87 "2024-11-24T09:13:24Z")
You meant porcelain or ceramic dinnerware? Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/88 "2024-11-24T09:42:49Z")
For God’s sake, man, _use capital letters!_ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/89 "2024-11-24T09:49:56Z")
I thought you are Scandinavian, not Basque. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/90 "2024-11-24T10:04:37Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I thought you are Scandinavian, not Basque No, you silly goose, the Basque don’t even put barcodes on their warships! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/91 "2024-11-24T10:13:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So, do have any disdain for Canada and their rule that Canadian productions must have Canadian content? False. The rules only say that Canadian broadcasters, including cable providers, must have a specified amount of Canadian content. For individual productions, like a film being made in Canada, Canadian content rules only apply if the production is seeking a tax credit. > [@Alessan](#): > > Just to play Devil’s advocate here: in the various threads on the invasion of Ukraine, the term “Russians” is used regularly to refer to either the Russian government or the Russian military. How is that any different? Yes, it’s different. A nation’s military is presumed to be acting under orders from the government, and any major actions it takes in wartime can be assumed to be either ordered by the government or, at least, tolerated by it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/92 "2024-11-24T10:18:06Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Yes, it’s different. A nation’s military is presumed to be acting under orders from the government, and any major actions it takes in wartime can be assumed to be either ordered by the government or, at least, tolerated by it. So it’s OK to refer to the people invading Ukraine as “the Russians”, even though there are many Russians who have not invaded Ukraine - including many ethnic Russians who do not live in Russia at all? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/93 "2024-11-24T10:29:23Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So it’s OK to refer to the people invading Ukraine as “the Russians”, even though there are many Russians who have not invaded Ukraine - including many ethnic Russians who do not live in Russia at all?   Was it OK for the British in WWII to refer to their existential threat as “the Germans”, even though many Germans weren’t in the armed forces or weren’t even living in Germany? Sometimes, especially when reporting the news from a war zone, succinctness is much more important than political correctness. Reminds me of the poem _The Purist_, by Ogden Nash: _I give you now Professor Twist,_ _A conscientious scientist,_ _Trustees exclaimed, “He never bungles!”_ _And sent him off to distant jungles._ _Camped on a tropic riverside,_ _One day he missed his loving bride._ _She had, the guide informed him later,_ _Been eaten by an alligator._ _Professor Twist could not but smile._ _“You mean,” he said, “a crocodile.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/94 "2024-11-24T12:01:47Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Is Hollywood taken over by stronger forces, or what say You? Hollywood was taken over by money decades ago. It’s really no more complicated than that. > [@Loggins](#): > > I have no respect for china. Living with a HongKong Sister-in-law. So no reason for capitalizing. You may though So… because you don’t like your sister-in-law you hate everyone Chinese or of Chinese descent? Wow. Also - the reason for capitalizing is because in English “China” is a country. “china” is the plate you eat off of during mealtime. So… > [@Loggins](#): > > I have no respect for china. Translates to: “I have no respect for my plate” This has been alluded to numerous times in this thread. It makes nonsense out of your words. Now, given that you are “Scandinavian” (unspecified beyond that) perhaps English is not your first language and you are unaware of how this sounds. And, given the context, we can guess what you actually mean but it is an obstacle to communication. > [@Loggins](#): > > Well i’m here to oblige, state your wish, and it will come true My wish is that you use proper capitalization. > [@Loggins](#): > > I have to repeat; the chinese are our enemy. They attack infrastructure in my scandinavian country on a regular basis Yeah, the Chinese _government_ does that (or at least attempts it) on a fairly regular basis over here, too. Also, they sell us substandard crap, and can’t seem to keep toxic substances out of their food chain. However, the people I know of Chinese _descent_ are not guilty of those things. Holding everyone of Chinese ancestry guilty of the mis-doings of the government of the Peoples’ Republic of China is racism. > [@Does anyone know what the deal is behind the recent East Asia trend, especially in media?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638/1): > > but there has clearly been a huge upsurge of East Asians (most especially of the Chinese variety) in US media in general. Yeah, because about 10% of the US population is of “East Asian” descent and we’ve worked hard to eliminate prior bullshit racism in our nation that prevented them from achieving on merit. That “upsurge” is them finally getting recognition for their talent and hard work. Asian-Americans are just as American as Euro-Americans. > [@hogarth](#): > > I thought it was kind of lame how Amazon’s Fallout TV show carefully avoided any mention of China (when there are quite a few mentions of China in the video games). I realize it was a departure from the games, and probably so they could get the show shown in China, but I’m actually OK with that in this case. The focus of the story here was not how the war started but that it happened and created the Wasteland. Frankly, post-apocalyptic tales springing from the aftermath of a global war can get rapidly dated by being too specific in regards to who started it. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/95 "2024-11-24T15:10:24Z")
If it means that Bowen Yang and Michelle Yeoh keep getting work then I’m all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/96 "2024-11-24T15:11:08Z")
What does Messina have to say about all this? Does he share these Concerns? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/97 "2024-11-24T15:30:59Z")
You guys don’t understand the true nature of war. Sometimes you have to do things that you would normally consider wrong. So when the enemy makes a movie, you have to retaliate by not capitalizing the name. Then afterwards, you have to learn how to live with what you’ve done. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/98 "2024-11-24T18:19:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So when the enemy makes a movie, you have to retaliate by not capitalizing the name. > > Then afterwards, you have to learn how to live with what you’ve done. Or you go in the other direction, and end up speaking German. It’s a slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/99 "2024-11-24T18:21:04Z")
Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/100 "2024-11-24T19:21:50Z")
**Loggins** used “chinese” because he’s too stupid to spell “Jews”. But, he’ll be doing the old Pogrom _next week._ {DISGUSTED} [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635.md?page=6)