# Token chinese

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [November 23, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635 "2024-11-23T01:03:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/141 "2024-11-25T16:25:03Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> You’re thinking of Ling-Ling and Sing-Sing. Ursiform agents of Kaos planted in Washington DC with the collaboration of that Quisling Nixon.

You can’t fool me. Sing Sing is in New York not Washington DC.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/142 "2024-11-27T15:54:40Z")

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I saw it in theaters, but it was called “Sing 2”.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/143 "2024-11-28T21:33:14Z")

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Starring Brenda Song?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/144 "2024-11-30T19:06:16Z")

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Are we all trolling the OP?

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL OPEN???

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/145 "2024-11-30T19:44:52Z")

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We are trolling Magiver.

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/146 "2024-12-02T09:53:03Z")

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My sister in law would agree with you, She is born in Hong-Kong which makes all kinds of problems, she was born a EU citizen, as Britain was part EU, but since Brexit, everything got more complicated.

Dont forget, guys, the Ukraine war probably not had been such a “success” without china. They deliver, amongst several other “Shithole” countries, or what did trump call them? Let stick with Bush’s Axis of evil. (I dont condone that)

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**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/147 "2024-12-02T10:15:34Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> She is born in Hong-Kong

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > HongKong
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> > Hong-Kong
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> It is neither one word, nor is it hyphenated.  
> Idiot.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/148 "2024-12-02T10:30:53Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> Dont forget, guys, the Ukraine war probably not had been such a “success” without china. They deliver, amongst several other “Shithole” countries, or what did trump call them? Let stick with Bush’s Axis of evil. (I dont condone that)

Right, and it’s funny how MAGA has decided to see China and Russia so differently, when the list of reasons for hating China and “respecting” Russia are the same.  
(I’ve put in a spoiler box as it’s a bit of a hijack):

> **Compare and contrast**
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> _Conservative culture, government repressing things like trans and gay?_ Check  
> _State ownership of energy, transport, media?_ Check  
> _Engage in international espionage, including against the US?_ Check, and arguably Russia is more overt in this  
> _Aggressively threatening neighbours?_ Well with China it’s mostly a looming threat, whereas Russia has actually invaded its neighbour plus projected power in Georgia, Syria etc. Nonetheless American conservatives trivially handwave the latter and only seem to care about the former.  
> _Communist?_ Nope. In practice they are both pretty Capitalist countries, certainly in the Chinese cities, perhaps rural China is still largely run on communist principles.  
> _Strongman leader?_ Yep, although I’m glad Xi has never rode topless on a horse.  
> _Repression of minorities?_ Check  
> _(Fair) elections, freedom of speech?_ Haha, nah bro

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/149 "2024-12-02T13:08:01Z")

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Does she sing [“Sing, Sing, Sing”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VHt4hazMG0)?

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/150 "2024-12-02T14:13:41Z")

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Ive heard of Sing Sing, And i know the tune you linked very well. Great music, i love big-band, Benny Goodman et all.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/151 "2024-12-02T21:02:40Z")

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I think the main difference is,

Growing economic powerhouse that is potentially threatening US economic dominance of the world.

China: Yes Russia: No

Human rights schmooman rights. Its all about the money.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/152 "2024-12-02T22:14:02Z")

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**China:** Non-white, and officially Communist. Therefore, pure evil and deserving of genocide.

**Russia:** White, Christian, and fascist. Therefore, a force of truth and justice who deserve to _commit_ genocide as they please.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/153 "2024-12-02T22:18:46Z")

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Try calling Russians fascists and see their response.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/154 "2024-12-02T22:21:41Z")

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Of course, they _define_ “fascist” as “opposes Russia”; they don’t even teach about the Holocaust in their schools. The Nazis were bad in their eyes for being on the other side as Russia, and for no other reason.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/155 "2024-12-02T22:22:12Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> **Russia:** White, Christian, and fascist.

Ironically, the USSR, which Putin is trying to bring back, persecuted Christians for over 70 years (as they did anyone with religious beliefs whatsoever, as the government didn’t want to cede any authority to any church or deity).

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/156 "2024-12-02T22:29:26Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Ironically, the USSR, which Putin is trying to bring back, persecuted Christians for over 70 years (as they did anyone with religious beliefs whatsoever, as the government didn’t want to cede any authority to any church or deity).

It’s more that Communism is an exclusionist religion that refuses to call itself that, and was persecuting the competition just as Christianity did before and after it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/157 "2024-12-05T06:39:03Z")

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> [@Loggins](#):
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> My sister in law would agree with you, She is born in Hong-Kong which makes all kinds of problems, she was born a EU citizen, as Britain was part EU, but since Brexit, everything got more complicated.

AFAIK, Hong Kong residency during the colonial period did not grant EU citizenship.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/158 "2024-12-05T08:19:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> AFAIK, Hong Kong residency during the colonial period did not grant EU citizenship.

Correct. Only people in the UK were considered citizens of the EU or the EEC (European Economic Community, which predated the EU).

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/159 "2024-12-17T20:59:47Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Its all about the money.

Isn’t everything?

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**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/token-chinese/1010635/160 "2024-12-17T21:01:42Z")

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My sister in law was a EU member until brexit

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