# Tolkien Fan Entmoot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** middle-earth\
**Created:** [February 12, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328 "2008-02-12T20:38:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/181 "2008-02-25T00:31:31Z")

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_sighs with nostalgic delight_

_feels is in glory days of pre-FOTR_

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/182 "2008-02-25T17:41:06Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
On the big screen, this is one of my favorite scenes, period. I think it’s majestic.  
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I found it amazingly “heart-swelling”, myself. 🆒

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/183 "2008-02-26T20:51:07Z")

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So we completed the Epic 12 hours of movie last night. My kids really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it much more this time.  
I thought I would toss a link to something that just came up in the new Game Forum: [D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=457558) Taking place in year 63 of the Fourth Age.

This should be challenging and slow paced.

Jim

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/184 "2008-02-26T21:23:44Z")

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I enjoyed the full rich feeling of Tolien’s Middle Earth. I have read the Silmarillion completely once. I haven’t memorized it, though.

I enjoy reading the discussions of the various Tolkien topics on this board, but I ain’t knowledegable enough to contribute anything, so I don’t try.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/185 "2008-03-08T00:55:12Z")

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A tall man entered, grey-eyed and proud. He was clad as a postal worker with a coat and jacket of dark blue; on the front of his cap was writ in silver thread the legend “Speedy Delivery.” In his hand he bore a single arrow, black-feathered and barbed with steel, but the point was painted red.

He sank on one knee and presented the arrow to Tolkien. ‘Hail, friend of **glee**!’ he said. ‘McFeely I am, errand-rider of Rogers, who bring you this token. The Neighborhood is in great need. Often Middle-Earth has aided us; but now the Lord **glee** \* asks for all your strength and all your speed, lest the Kingdom of Make-Believe fall at last.’

‘The Red Arrow!’ said Tolkien, holding it, as one who recieves a summons long expected and yet dreadful when it comes. His hand trembled. ‘The Red Arrow has not been seen in all my years! Has it indeed come to that? And what does the Lord **glee** reckon that all my strength and all my speed may be?’

‘That is best known to yourself, lord,’ said McFeely. ‘Lord **glee** bids me say only, “Meow meow all your strength, meow meow very fast meow.”’  
\*Obviously this took place before Tarion son of Tarkalion reclaimed the throne and was crowned Friday XIII.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/186 "2008-03-08T01:02:38Z")

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I should have posted here earlier. I should stay out of GD for a while anyway and I’d have known about this thread. 🙂

Thank you for the inclusion **Jim**. I was hoping to make another visit to Milwaukee to see the Tolkien originals - I have the info for the gentleman who is stewarding the papers and manuscripts. Provided to me by one of the fine folks on your list. I do believe it would make a wonderful Tolkien Dopefest in Milwaukee if a few of us dedicated diehards could meet up there, put on the cotton gloves and try not to drool over the original manuscripts. I’m definitley doing it at some point. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/187 "2008-03-08T01:59:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Phlosphr]  
I do believe it would make a wonderful Tolkien Dopefest in Milwaukee if a few of us dedicated diehards could meet up there, put on the cotton gloves and try not to drool over the original manuscripts. I’m definitley doing it at some point. 🙂  
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Sign me up! If it’s just you and me, we could always make it a Tolkien Milwaukee ODAAT dopefest!

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/188 "2008-03-09T16:41:39Z")

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I’m here! Had to be a little too hasty, but it couldn’t be helped.

Stats: Silmarillion is my favorite book. Love LOTR and, to a (sligtly) lesser extet, The Hobbit. I’ve got all the HOMES, LT, UT, etc. but haven’t gotten around to reading them yet. I know, I know, a sure sign that Sauron’s forces are on the rise again.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/189 "2008-03-10T18:44:49Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
So we completed the Epic 12 hours of movie last night. My kids really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it much more this time.  
I thought I would toss a link to something that just came up in the new Game Forum: [D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=457558) Taking place in year 63 of the Fourth Age.

This should be challenging and slow paced.

Jim  
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Can I be moderately pedantic and nitpicky and note that FA means First Age? What you want is FO, adopted to avoid that ambiguity.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/190 "2008-03-10T20:19:16Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Can I be moderately pedantic and nitpicky and note that FA means First Age? What you want is FO, adopted to avoid that ambiguity.  
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Moderately?

😛

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/191 "2008-03-10T20:29:34Z")

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Now I won’t be able to rest easy until I know the approved designation for the Fifth Age. I’m guessing FI?

Come to think of it, Sixth Age would have the same problem, I guess. As would Seventh Age… Are we in Seventh Age yet? SI and SE? Why the hell isn’t there an Appendix for this sort of thing?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/192 "2008-03-10T20:32:59Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
Moderately?

😛  
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Compared to some, yes. 😉

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/193 "2008-03-10T20:34:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]  
Now I won’t be able to rest easy until I know the approved designation for the Fifth Age. I’m guessing FI?

Come to think of it, Sixth Age would have the same problem, I guess. As would Seventh Age… Are we in Seventh Age yet? SI and SE? Why the hell isn’t there an Appendix for this sort of thing?  
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I swear I read somewhere that Tolkien did see this as the Seventh age. Probably in Letters.

As to the FA for Fourth Age, fine, but it is easier than FO. Who decided on FO anyway? DId I miss that moot or was I still musing on the weather question?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/194 "2008-03-10T22:30:31Z")

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Moot! Moot!

I like saying moot.

That, and smock.

Did you know that JRRT only ever wrote down 6 words of Avari? His lexicon of Ilkorin is far larger than that!

\<\<wanders off to try to teach the local trees to talk\>\>

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/195 "2008-03-10T23:15:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
Moot! Moot!

I like saying moot.

That, and smock.

Did you know that JRRT only ever wrote down 6 words of Avari? His lexicon of Ilkorin is far larger than that!

\<\<wanders off to try to teach the local trees to talk\>\>  
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“Come on, trees! Speak up!” he barked.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/196 "2008-03-11T09:02:30Z")

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I’ve been a fan since age 12. I read _The Hobbit_ and LOTR. Repeatedly. I was thoroughly engrossed in the world Tolkien created and still find it facinating. I read _The Silmarillion_ after FOTR was released. Repeatedly. Followed up with LOTR. Repeatedly. Seasoned with an occaisional dash of short stories and essays by JRRT.

I share a lot of the criticisms of the movies, but overall I love them. Leaving out the Scouring was, I think, the worst decision of Jackson’s, but I forgive him because the majority of the movies was so good.

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/197 "2008-03-12T02:06:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
…That, and smock…  
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Apparently we have the same taste in reading. I not only know who Qadgop is, but I know the proper reply to “Smock smock smock smock smock smock!” is:

“WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH YOU?!”

How do you feel about pTerry and the Discworld? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/198 "2008-03-12T20:02:23Z")

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[QUOTE=NoCoolUserName]  
How do you feel about pTerry and the Discworld? 🙂  
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I just re-read “Thud” for the 5th time yesterday.

And I was disappointed when the former SDMB poster, aka “The Librarian”, didn’t know who Horace Worblehat was.

Ook.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/199 "2008-03-12T20:26:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Denis]  
I’ve been a fan since age 12. I read _The Hobbit_ and LOTR. Repeatedly. I was thoroughly engrossed in the world Tolkien created and still find it facinating. I read _The Silmarillion_ after FOTR was released. Repeatedly. Followed up with LOTR. Repeatedly. Seasoned with an occaisional dash of short stories and essays by JRRT.

I share a lot of the criticisms of the movies, but overall I love them. Leaving out the Scouring was, I think, the worst decision of Jackson’s, but I forgive him because the majority of the movies was so good.  
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Mellon.

[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
And I was disappointed when the former SDMB poster, aka “The Librarian”, didn’t know who Horace Worblehat was.  
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You know Horace? He was in boot camp with me, what an odd coincidence.

[RIGHT]–\>I Kid\<–[/RIGHT]

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-fan-entmoot/437328/200 "2008-03-12T20:30:29Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]

[RIGHT]–\>I Kid\<–[/RIGHT]  
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What the heckles is that?!

PS: Moot!

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