# Tolkien, Sibelius and the Kalevala

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 1, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536 "2015-02-01T19:19:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536/21 "2015-02-03T00:50:00Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> If all you’re saying is that you’re creating a conlang which assumes that Ural-Altaic was a real thing and that this conlang is derived from it, I have no objection to what you’re doing.

“A conlang which assumes that Ural-Altaic was a real thing.”  
Yeah, even though I don’t baldly assert that in real linguistics, I guess that is a premise that my conlang wanted to be built upon.

“I have no objection”  
I didn’t think you would, once we’d had it out over defining the boundary between linguistic science and linguistic science fiction. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536/22 "2015-02-03T16:35:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks, all. **Johanna** , this might also interest you: [Speaking Elvish for Pentecost - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=652129)

Thanks! That was a fun read. Though it quickly digressed far afield from the opening topic.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536/23 "2015-02-03T18:18:13Z")

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Well, this is the Straight Dope, after all…

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-sibelius-and-the-kalevala/711536/24 "2015-02-03T19:28:07Z")

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Hey, **Elendil’s Heir** , if you happen to listen to any of the other Sibelius works that we’ve talked about, assuming you weren’t previously acquainted with them, I’d be interested in hearing what you thought.

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