# Tolkien trivia contest

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963 "2006-04-09T15:31:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/181 "2006-04-11T23:49:49Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Longbottom PipeWeed. Ah Yes. Much better provided for indeed.
> 
> 1. My wife would like to know, What has it gots in its pocketses?

String or nothing!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/182 "2006-04-12T02:40:50Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> …74) What were four other names for Gandalf, among various peoples?

Already asked as question #7, and answered by me in post #6.

I’ve created a monster! Great to see this thread taking off so quickly and enthusiastically.

1. What name does King Elessar take for his ruling house?
2. What does the name mean?
3. Gandalf recalls the old rhyme, “Seven stars and seven stones and \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_.”
4. What common English first name appears more often than any other (given to different individuals) in the Tolkien canon?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/183 "2006-04-12T02:45:35Z")

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> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> Already asked as question #7, and answered by me in post #6.
> 
> I’ve created a monster! Great to see this thread taking off so quickly and enthusiastically.
> 
> 1. What name does King Elessar take for his ruling house?
> 2. What does the name mean?
> 3. Gandalf recalls the old rhyme, “Seven stars and seven stones and \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_.”
> 4. What common English first name appears more often than any other (given to different individuals) in the Tolkien canon?

1. Telcontar
2. Strider
3. one white tree
4. Tom

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/184 "2006-04-12T02:46:07Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Let’s get some more questions put up. Answer a question, ask a question. That was Elendil’s Heir’s Rules. 😉  
> 73) Who was the [sic] Elendil’s Heir?
> 
> Jim

1. As the OP and the guy with the username, I’d have to say… it was never stated, at least by Tolkien, IIRC. Logically it’s Aragorn/Elessar, but the usual formulation was “Isildur’s Heir.” I’ve always liked Elendil more than Isildur, though (mostly because the numbnuts didn’t toss the Ring into the volcano when he had the chance), hence my username.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/185 "2006-04-12T02:47:55Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. Telcontar
> 2. Strider
> 3. one white tree
> 4. Tom

1. through 79. - correct. Well done!
2. I don’t think so. I’ll wait for more answers before I reveal the answer I had in mind…

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/186 "2006-04-12T02:48:01Z")

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> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> I’ve created a monster! Great to see this thread taking off so quickly and enthusiastically.

Thank you again, between you and [eleanorigby](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=366914) I am in my glory.

1. What name does King Elessar take for his ruling house? TelContir
2. What does the name mean? Strider
3. Gandalf recalls the old rhyme, “Seven stars and seven stones and \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_.” One White Tree?
4. What common English first name appears more often than any other (given to different individuals) in the Tolkien canon? Bill or William I believe  
I am still waiting for an answer to my Barrow Downs Question. Doesn’t anyone remember?

1. All that is gold does not glitter,  
Not all those who wander are lost;  
**Please complete**

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1. Who was the Mormegil?
2. What does Mormegil mean?
3. What branch of Hobbitry was Smeagol most likely related to?
4. Name all branches of Hobbitry
5. What king of Arnor did the hobbits of the shire send a group of archers to, to lend aid?
6. Who was that king fighting?

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/188 "2006-04-12T02:56:20Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. Who was the Mormegil?
> 2. What does Mormegil mean?
> 3. What branch of Hobbitry was Smeagol most likely related to?
> 4. Name all branches of Hobbitry
> 5. What king of Arnor did the hobbits of the shire send a group of archers to, to lend aid?
> 6. Who was that king fighting?

1. Smeagol was most related to the Stoors a small portion stayed by the Anduin when the rest crossed the Mountains
2. Stoors, Fallohides and Harfoots
3. the Last King of Arnor: Ardevui???
4. the WitchKing of Angmar

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> 1. All that is gold does not glitter,  
> Not all those who wander are lost;  
> **Please complete**

There’s lots of versions, if you read HOMES.

The old that is strong does not wither  
deep roots are untouched by the frost  
From the ashes a fire shall be woken  
Something Something something shall spring  
Renewed shall be blade that was broken  
The crownless again shall be king.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/190 "2006-04-12T06:04:01Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> …  
> I am still waiting for an answer to my Barrow Downs Question. Doesn’t anyone remember?

This one?

> [@](#):
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> 1. If you were trapped in the Barrow-downs, how would you summon help?

I remember something like :  
Ho Tom Bombadil, harken now and hear us  
Something something and our need is near us.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/191 "2006-04-12T08:13:51Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> Something Something something shall spring

Woot - one that I know…

“A light from the shadows shall spring”

Strangely, the poetry is what I remember best…

1. Complete:

Gil-galad was an elven king  
Of him the harpers sadly sing  
The last whose realm was fair and free  
…

His lance was long, his sword was keen  
His shining helm afar was seen  
And all the stars of heaven’s field  
…

But long ago he rode away  
and where he dwelleth, none can say  
For into darkness fell his star  
…

1. Who recited that poem and where?

Grim

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/192 "2006-04-12T08:17:42Z")

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> [@Wile E](#):
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> I remember something like :  
> Ho Tom Bombadil, harken now and hear us  
> Something something and our need is near us.

I remember there being a “Tom Bombadil-o” in there somewhere, but that could have been any one of his other rhymes, they’re liberally sprinkled with “Bombadil-o’s”

Maybe:

Ho Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadil-o  
Something something something willow  
Ho Tom Bombadil, harken now and hear us  
Something something and our need is near us.

Grim

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/193 "2006-04-12T09:18:31Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Longbottom PipeWeed. Ah Yes. Much better provided for indeed.
> 
> 1. My wife would like to know, What has it gots in its pocketses?

True, but also, Merry and Pippin sent no strong drink along with the King’s rations: Treebeard said there would be water to drink, and that was good enough for Ents and Men alike - whereas the five had wine and beer, which was more to Legolas’s interest than pipe-weed was (he affected not to understand why they were polluting the fresh morning air).  
80) Tom.

1. Sam, on Weathertop; but Aragorn interrupted the story and told them one a little less dark.
2. After the War, how did the Bucklanders celebrate November 2nd and why?

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/194 "2006-04-12T12:05:46Z")

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> [@smiling bandit](#):
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> Which name? The common names we have are:
> 
> Gandalf the Grey/White, Saruman the White/of Many Colors/of Bupkiss, Radagast the Brown, and Alatar and Pallando the Red Wizards.

They were Blue, not Red.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/195 "2006-04-12T12:20:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Wormtongue calls him “lathspell” (“ill news”), but that’s more of an epithet than a name.
> 
> Amateur etymology: “spell” = “news” looks like it’s straight Middle English; cf. “godspell”/ gospel/ “good news.”

You can toss “Incanus” in there as well. One of the names recited by Faramir.  
90) What did the Shire idiom “on Friday the first” mean, and why?

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1. A golden ring that Bilbo found in the dark. A trifle, really, of no interest to anyone…

2. Yes, I was thinking of Bill or William as the common English first name used more than any other by JRRT (William the troll in _The Hobbit_; Bill the pony and Bill Ferny in _LOTR_). I don’t think there were three Toms, were there?

3. Stoors.

Some new questions:

1. What was the original name of Weathertop?
2. List five other names by which Aragorn was known during his lifetime.
3. What did the people of Rohan call Minas Tirith?

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> [@](#):
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> 1. Who was the Mormegil?
> 2. What does Mormegil mean?

Turin, a.k.a. that really really REALLY unlucky guy from the Silmarillion, which is really saying something. And it means “the black sword”. Because he had a black sword.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Complete:
> 
> Gil-galad was an elven king  
> Of him the harpers sadly sing  
> The last whose realm was fair and free  
> …

Between the mountains and the sea.

> [@](#):
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> His lance was long, his sword was keen  
> His shining helm afar was seen  
> And all the stars of heaven’s field  
> …

Were something mirrored in his shield?

> [@](#):
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> But long ago he rode away  
> and where he dwelleth, none can say  
> For into darkness fell his star  
> …

In Mordor where the shadows are.

I am fairly sure that’s mostly right. I am surprised I even remember that much since I’m one of those readers who gloss over the poems.

I noticed someone question paternity in an earlier post, so I might as well ask 91) Who was Gil-galad’s father?

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/198 "2006-04-12T14:58:36Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. What king of Arnor did the hobbits of the shire send a group of archers to, to lend aid?

Argeleb I

(\*either Arglebargle I, or somebody else…ok, that’s enough BotR references…)

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> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> 1. A golden ring that Bilbo found in the dark. A trifle, really, of no interest to anyone…

😃 correct of course but bonus points for the answer. We are scoring this Whose Line is it style aren’t we?

1. What was the original name of Weathertop? Ammon Sul I think.

1. What color is the arrow used by Minas Tirith to Summon Aid from Rohan?

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**BTW** : It has mostly been done but from Memory:  
Ho Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo  
By Water, Wood and Hill, by Reed and Willow  
By Fire, Sun and Moon, Hearken now and hear us  
Come Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us.

Almost sad in a way isn’t it.

Jim

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