# Tolkien trivia contest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963 "2006-04-09T15:31:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/261 "2006-04-13T20:58:03Z")

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> [@Arien](#):
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> 1. Where did Radagast live?
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> 2. What Vala were Sauron and Saruman associated with, before they became all evil?

1. Under the eaves of Mirkwood.

2. Aule

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/262 "2006-04-13T22:36:00Z")

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> 1. Who found Isildur’s remains?

Some fish, and not much of anyone else. Deagol found the Ring he was wearing at the time of his death, though (that being several thousand years later, his actual remains would all have rotted away and washed away to the Sea by then).

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/263 "2006-04-13T22:46:39Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> 1. Under the eaves of Mirkwood.
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> 2. Aule

1. Rhosgobel.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/264 "2006-04-13T22:51:10Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Some fish, and not much of anyone else. Deagol found the Ring he was wearing at the time of his death, though (that being several thousand years later, his actual remains would all have rotted away and washed away to the Sea by then).

1. Who found Isildur’s remains? Saruman did, in his search for the One ring.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/265 "2006-04-13T22:53:17Z")

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1. Meriadoc’s real name? Kalimac Brandagamba!

2. First ship-king. Tar-Minastur?

3. Carc’s son: Roac

4. First ruling queen: Tar- Miriel?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/266 "2006-04-13T22:56:52Z")

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(unnumbered) What does Bagronk mean, and in what language?

If I’m recollecting correctly, this is part of the orc’s cursing of Saruman…so it’s Black Speech. No idea what it means, though.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/267 "2006-04-13T23:10:15Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. Meriadoc’s real name? Kalimac Brandagamba!
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> 2. First ship-king. Tar-Minastur?
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> 3. Carc’s son: Roac
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> 4. First ruling queen: Tar- Miriel?

I was lucky to remember Kalimac, you got the whole name.  
**On 117**. Who was the first Ship King of Numenor? This was actually a bad question on my part. Technically the Ship Kings refered to Kings of Gondor not Numenor. I had \*\*Tar-Ciryatan \*\* in mind, his name literally means “Ship-builder”.  
He is the son of \*\*Tar-Minastir \*\* who could be argued was the first “Ship King” but I think it belongs \*\*Tar-Ciryatan \*\* who went to Middle-Earth as a Conquerer bringing back treasures to Númenor.

Your answer to 115 is not correct BTW. She was the last.  
\*\*Roac \*\* is correct.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/268 "2006-04-13T23:37:08Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> (unnumbered) What does Bagronk mean, and in what language?
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> If I’m recollecting correctly, this is part of the orc’s cursing of Saruman…so it’s Black Speech. No idea what it means, though.

You’ve got the language right!

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/269 "2006-04-13T23:41:31Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Your answer to 115 is not correct BTW. She was the last.  
> Jim

I knew she was either first or last, and suspected she was the last, but I couldn’t for the life of me call up the first queen’s name.  
121) What was the name of the mother of the first Lord of Andunië?  
122) Who was the looked for that came at unawares, the longed for that came beyond hope?

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/270 "2006-04-14T00:31:31Z")

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> [@5 time champ](#):
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> 1. Name the character referred to?  
> …  
> b. Master Bag  
> …  
> d. cursed peaching sneakthief  
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b. Is Merry Brandybuck, as called by Elfhelm the Marshall of Rohan, as he is traveling to Minas Tirith with “Dernhelm” against Theoden’s orders.

d. Is an otherwise unnamed Uruk in Mordor, so called by the orc “Snaga”. I think.

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/271 "2006-04-14T00:37:01Z")

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Oh, I should ask a question.

1. Which two members of Thorin and Co. were particularly good at starting fires with flint and tinder?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/272 "2006-04-14T00:39:03Z")

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> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#):
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> 1. Which two members of Thorin and Co. were particularly good at starting fires with flint and tinder?

Fili and Kili, I think.

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**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/273 "2006-04-14T01:38:17Z")

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> 1. What was the name of the mother of the first Lord of Andunië?
> 2. Who was the looked for that came at unawares, the longed for that came beyond hope?

1. Silmarien

2. Uh, Earendil?

3. What heirlooms did Silmarien’s father give her that were eventually handed down to Aragorn?

4. Who was Gloin’s father and thus Gimli’s grandfather? Hint: This is another one of Tolkien’s hilarious names.

5. What’s tengwar?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/274 "2006-04-14T01:41:23Z")

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> [@Arien](#):
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> 1. Silmarien
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> 2. Uh, Earendil?
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> 3. What heirlooms did Silmarien’s father give her that were eventually handed down to Aragorn?
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> 4. Who was Gloin’s father and thus Gimli’s grandfather? Hint: This is another one of Tolkien’s hilarious names.
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> 5. What’s tengwar?

1. Groin of course 😃
2. one of the two Elven alphabets.

New Question:  
126. Who created the Tengwar?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/275 "2006-04-14T01:43:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Arien]  
121. Silmarien: Still not right  
122. Uh, Earendil? CORRECT!!!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/276 "2006-04-14T01:45:48Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]

> [@Arien](#):
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> 1. Silmarien: Still not right
> 2. Uh, Earendil? CORRECT!!!

Ack 121 is right, I thought you were answering the First Ruling queen question. :smack:  
Arien both were right, sorry. ::walks aways muttering to self:: “I’m a twit”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/277 "2006-04-14T01:57:04Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> New Question:  
> 126. Who created the Tengwar?

Feanor

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/278 "2006-04-14T02:00:08Z")

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1. Scepter of Annuminas and Ring of Barahir.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/279 "2006-04-14T02:04:04Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. Scepter of Annuminas and Ring of Barahir.

And that’s my answer to 123b) What heirlooms did Silmarien’s father give her that were eventually handed down to Aragorn? Not 123) Which two members of Thorin and Co. were particularly good at starting fires with flint and tinder? Which I believe is Fili and Kili.

1. What were Samwise and Hamfast Gamgee’s actual full names?
2. What were Frodo and Bilbo’s actual first names?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/280 "2006-04-14T02:30:54Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> 1. What were Frodo and Bilbo’s actual first names?

Froda and Bilba? I remember one of the appendices mentioning that the masculine ending was actually in -a.

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