# Tolkien trivia contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963 "2006-04-09T15:31:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/281 "2006-04-14T02:38:50Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] > [@What Exit?](#): > > Ack 121 is right, I thought you were answering the First Ruling queen question. :smack: > Arien both were right, sorry. ::walks aways muttering to self:: “I’m a twit” There, there. Apparently I can’t count, so we can both be twits. _sighs at another number discrepancy_ > [@](#): > > 1. What were Frodo and Bilbo’s actual first names? Maura and Bilba. > [@](#): > > 1. Scepter of Annuminas and Ring of Barahir. > > And that’s my answer to 123b) What heirlooms did Silmarien’s father give her that were eventually handed down to Aragorn? Correct, but there is one more if anyone wants to answer that. Don’t forget to ask questions, too! 1. What people sheltered the last king of Arnor after that realm fell? 2. What language did the Valar speak among themselves? 3. What did the Rohirrim name Orome? 4. What caused the Kin-strife of Gondor? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/282 "2006-04-14T02:46:17Z")
> [@Arien](#): > > 1. What people sheltered the last king of Arnor after that realm fell? > > 2. What caused the Kin-strife of Gondor? 1. The Ice-Folk of Forochel 2. The heir to the throne was of mixed blood (Numenorean and “lesser men”). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/283 "2006-04-14T02:47:26Z")
Wait…same people but I think the more accepted name was the Snowmen of Lossoth. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/284 "2006-04-14T02:47:35Z")
1. What people sheltered the last king of Arnor after that realm fell? Ice Men of Forochel. 2. When the Goblins assaulted Father Christmas’ house who crushed and squeezed the goblins? {Yes this is a real Tolkien Question} ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/285 "2006-04-14T02:52:51Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > Oh, I should ask a question. > > 1. Which two members of Thorin and Co. were particularly good at starting fires with flint and tinder? Oin and Gloin! 1. To get from Bree to Norbury, which direction would you travel in? ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/286 "2006-04-14T02:55:17Z")
1. What people sheltered the last king of Arnor after that realm fell? The Snow People [Lossoth] of the Ice Bay of Forechel \ 2. What did the Rohirrim name Orome? Bema 3. What caused the Kin-strife of Gondor? Can’t remember any of the names but, the Heir of the King married a woman of non-Numenorean blood, their child was not recognized as King. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/287 "2006-04-14T12:30:48Z")
1. What were Frodo and Bilbo’s actual first names? Maura and Froda are both correct. The former didn’t appear until HOMES, the latter can be found the LOTR appendices. I’m unaware of any other name for Bilbo than the masculine “Bilba”. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/288 "2006-04-14T12:49:03Z")
1. Bree to Norbury (Fornost Erain), go north! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/289 "2006-04-14T13:34:13Z")
1. How did Aragorn’s father die? Arathorn was killed by orcs. BTW, my LOTR movie page-a-day calendar for today (Good Friday) shows Theoden’s son Theodred being carried into his tomb. Coincidence? I wonder if Sunday’s (Easter) shows him walking out with a big grin: “I’m baaaaaaaaaaack!” ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/290 "2006-04-14T13:48:17Z")
> [@Elendil's Heir](#): > > 1. How did Aragorn’s father die? > Arathorn was killed by orcs. Yeah, he took an arrow thru the eye. Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/291 "2006-04-14T15:00:26Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > 1. Who found Isildur’s remains? Saruman did, in his search for the One ring. How is this possible? I thought the Istari didn’t show up in Middle Earth until c.1100 of the Third Age? BTW **bmoak** got question 123 about the pyromaniac dwarves correct. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/292 "2006-04-14T15:22:53Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > How is this possible? I thought the Istari didn’t show up in Middle Earth until c.1100 of the Third Age? ?? Yes, but Isildur died at the beginning of the Third Age. Dead, converted to bones, Saruman shows up, looks for ring, finds bones. Think Archaeology! ---
**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/293 "2006-04-14T15:24:29Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > How is this possible? I thought the Istari didn’t show up in Middle Earth until c.1100 of the Third Age? After Saruman began to desire the One Ring for himself, he set about searching for it where he knew Isildur fell and found his bones, presumably, that being the only parts of him that would still be around. He also found the Star of Elendil, which Isildur was wearing when he was killed. I think its light is what allowed the orcs to see him, after the ring slipped from his finger, but I’m not sure. It was later found in Orthanc after Saruman’s demise. The Star of Elendil that Aragorn had was a copy made for Valandil, Isildur’s son, in Rivendell. This information is found in Unfinished Tales, I believe. 1. What was the main language of Numenor? 2. Who fell in the enchanted river of Mirkwood and what did he dream about? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/294 "2006-04-14T15:41:55Z")
> [@Arien](#): > > 1. What was the main language of Numenor? > 2. Who fell in the enchanted river of Mirkwood and what did he dream about? 1. Adunaic, I believe. 2. Bombur dreamed of food after falling into the river. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/295 "2006-04-14T16:12:10Z")
1. Why would only a very bold Hobbit have ventured to call the Master of Buckland _Braldagamba_ to his face? ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/296 "2006-04-14T16:15:13Z")
1. What were Samwise and Hamfast Gamgee’s actual full names? Banakil is one of the first names, can’t remember which one though. It means ‘stay-at-home; foolish’. I am sure this will now jog someone else’s memory. I can see the passage in the Appendix, but can’t remember the exact words. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/297 "2006-04-14T16:29:06Z")
> [@5 time champ](#): > > 1. What were Samwise and Hamfast Gamgee’s actual full names? > Banakil is one of the first names, can’t remember which one though. It means ‘stay-at-home; foolish’. Sorry, close but no cigar. Banakil is the Westron name for hobbits. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/298 "2006-04-14T17:12:23Z")
> [@5 time champ](#): > > 1. What were Samwise and Hamfast Gamgee’s actual full names? > Banakil is one of the first names, can’t remember which one though. It means ‘stay-at-home; foolish’. > . I have no idea on the actual answer, but I think Samwise = foolish (semi-wise), and Hamfast = stay-at-home. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/299 "2006-04-14T17:14:50Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > ?? > > Yes, but Isildur died at the beginning of the Third Age. Dead, converted to bones, Saruman shows up, looks for ring, finds bones. > > Think Archaeology! Exactly. So Saruman finds the bones of one particular person who died on a battlefield 1100 years previously? That would be like finding the bones of Harold, today, at the site of the battle of Hastings. :dubious: That’s some archaeology. **Arien** that’s my point, I don’t think the bones would be around a millenium later, unless they were somehow mummified. From what we know about the manner of Isildur’s death that doesn’t seem possible. I think there is a reason why some of these tales remained unfinished. ---
**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/300 "2006-04-14T17:27:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Exactly. So Saruman finds the bones of one particular person who died on a battlefield 1100 years previously? That would be like finding the bones of Harold, today, at the site of the battle of Hastings. Hey, it’s magic! A wizard did it. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963.md?page=16)