# Tolkien trivia contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963 "2006-04-09T15:31:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/321 "2006-04-15T15:31:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Close; it’s Beruthiel. > > The religious reference is a toughie, since I can think of quite a few contenders. > … > f) Men of Gondor look to the West before meals. Even though there’s no divinity mentioned in the practice, this seems rather religious… I think this (the Standing Silence) is really what the question, and Tolkien, were talking about. There are loads of references to the Valar, and Eru Iluvatar – but that’s not “religion”. The only religious \*practice \*is when Faramir’s men say grace before eating. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/322 "2006-04-15T18:11:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by \*\*What Exit? \*\* > 68. Who were his Father & Grandfather? > > Originally Posted by **jayjay** > Curufin and Feanor Nitpick: That should be “Curufinwe”. “Curufin” was Feanor’s real name. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/323 "2006-04-15T18:21:17Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Nitpick: That should be “Curufinwe”. “Curufin” was Feanor’s real name. Um, Curufinwë was Feanor’s “father” name. Curufin is the generally accepted name of one of Feanor’s sons. Curufin’s name could well have been a truncated form of “Curufinwë”, as some sources say that Feanor named Curufin after himself. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/324 "2006-04-15T18:23:40Z")
1. What two brothers are considered the “founders” of the Shire? 2. What king gave them permission to found the shire? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/325 "2006-04-15T18:25:52Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > 1. What two brothers are considered the “founders” of the Shire? Marcho and Branco. (where did I read that these are analogous to Angles and Saxons…?) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/326 "2006-04-15T18:29:34Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Marcho and Branco. (where did I read that these are analogous to Angles and Saxons…?) Close enough. But it’s Blanco. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/327 "2006-04-15T18:37:18Z")
Which of the following plot twists were actually part of JRRT’s early drafts of LOTR? 1. Balin emerges from the depths of Moria, claiming he “fell asleep in the tub”. 2. Galadriel discovers Pippin singing the praises of a bath while he takes one in her mirror. 3. Boromir uses the ring, saves Gondor, destroys Sauron and becomes a wise and benevolent ruler. Book ends 40 chapters sooner. 4. Orc-slaughter competition between Legolas and Gimli becomes so fierce, they take to killing some of the smaller, uglier men of Gondor. 5. Farmer Giles of Ham shows up at the Pelennor Fields and saves Gandalf’s life. 6. Pippin hits on Eowyn in a dark corner of the Houses of Healing: “The hands of a Hobbit are the hands of a healer too, you know…” 7. In the happy days after the defeat of Sauron, Gimli keeps his promise and visits Mirkwood with Legolas – where they are eaten by giant spiders, whom everyone had forgotten about. 8. Aragorn discovers that he is not, in fact, Elendil’s heir. His older brother Mutt, after having lived with Ghan-Buri-Ghan & Co. for decades, lays claim to the throne after all the “dirty work” is done. 9. Ents and Elves dispute over title of “first-born”. Elrond has Quickbeam made into an armoire; Treebeard grinds Glorfindel into mulch. 10. The Shire, mobilized by Merry and Pippin and now hungry for vengeance, annexes Bree and slaughters “the big folk”. 11. Gollum adapts to molten Mt. Doom environment, and later plays a critical role in Fourth Age crisis. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/328 "2006-04-15T23:07:15Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > 1. Why would only a very bold Hobbit have ventured to call the Master of Buckland _Braldagamba_ to his face? The name usually rendered “Brandybuck” actually meant “Marchbuck”, where “March” means “border region” as in “Warden of the Northern Marches” and so on (a variant of the word “marge” as in “margin”, I should think). But “Braldagamba” literally did mean “Brandy-buck” and would be thoroughly cheeky. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/329 "2006-04-16T00:47:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Which of the following plot twists were actually part of JRRT’s early drafts of LOTR? Y’know, I really hope the correct answer is “none of them”. But there’s a twisted part of me that wants those to be true anyway… ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/330 "2006-04-16T00:48:28Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Which of the following plot twists were actually part of JRRT’s early drafts of LOTR? Considering they’re all from [here](http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/10twists.htm), probably none. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/331 "2006-04-16T01:07:07Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > 1. What two brothers are considered the “founders” of the Shire? The Naugahyde brothers, Brasso and Drano. OK, so that was _Bored_ of the rings. > [@](#): > > 1. What king gave them permission to found the shire? Either Arglebargle IV or somebody else, says _Bored of the Rings_, so I’m gonna guess Argeleb IV is the real answer. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/332 "2006-04-16T01:23:36Z")
I’m jumping the gun, I know, but since this is _Tolkien_ trivia, and not just _Middle-Earth_ trivia, it’s time to break into that unexplored territory. 1. What was the name of Farmer Giles’ dog? 2. When the King said, “Give me my sword,” how did Farmer Giles reply? 3. What was Prentice called, by those few who didn’t call him Prentice? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/333 "2006-04-16T02:07:32Z")
**Chronos** and **Athelas** , sadly, you’re both right! **RTFirefly** , it was Argeleb the _second_! I’m out of my league with your questions, tho. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/334 "2006-04-16T02:13:10Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > **RTFirefly** , it was Argeleb the _second_! So close, but yet so far! I knew he was the High King at Ribroast…er, Fornost. Does that push me over the top? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/335 "2006-04-16T02:25:25Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > So close, but yet so far! > > I knew he was the High King at Ribroast…er, Fornost. Does that push me over the top? 🙂 Only if you can complete this poem: This ring and no other was made by the elves Who’d pawn their own mother to grab it themselves… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/336 "2006-04-16T10:51:50Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Only if you can complete this poem: > > This ring and no other was made by the elves > Who’d pawn their own mother to grab it themselves… All I can do from memory is the last couplet: _If broken or busted, it cannot be remade. If found, send to Sorhed (the postage is prepaid)._ How about finishing this bit of dialog: Goodgulf: “Despair not! Bring me my white robes, and quickly!” Pepsi: “Ah! White robes for white magic!” Goodgulf: “No, white robes \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ .” ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/337 "2006-04-16T12:24:02Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > All I can do from memory is the last couplet: > > _If broken or busted, it cannot be remade. > If found, send to Sorhed (the postage is prepaid)._ > > How about finishing this bit of dialog: > > Goodgulf: “Despair not! Bring me my white robes, and quickly!” > Pepsi: “Ah! White robes for white magic!” > Goodgulf: “No, white robes \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ .” For surrender. I don’t know BOTR quite as well as LOTR, but I know it pretty well. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/338 "2006-04-16T12:25:28Z")
The middle verse is something like: “ruler of creeper, crawler and scallop this little doozie packs quite a wallop” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/339 "2006-04-16T14:06:40Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > The middle verse is something like: > > “ruler of creeper, crawler and scallop > this little doozie packs quite a wallop” I’ll take a stab at: ```auto "This ring, no other, is made by the elves "Who'd pawn their own mother to grab it themselves; "Ruler of creeper, mortal and scallop "This is the sleeper that packs quite a wallop. "The Power Almighty rests in this lone ring, "The power, alrighty, for doing your own thing. "If broken or busted it cannot be remade; "If found, send to Sorhed (the postage is prepaid)." ``` And now off to check… 100% spot on except for the occasional article, capitalization and punctuation. Am I good or what? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/340 "2006-04-16T14:08:29Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > For surrender. > > I don’t know BOTR quite as well as LOTR, but I know it pretty well. 😉 “No, white robes for white flag!” 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963.md?page=18)