# Tolkien trivia contest

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963 "2006-04-09T15:31:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> 1. Who did Eorl the Young swear his oath to?

Cirion

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
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1. Who was the first Steward of Gondor?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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> [@5 time champ](#):
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> Cirion

That was fast and Correct.

Everyone: Try to put up a question when you answer one.

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**Author:** ![Arien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arien)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/424 "2006-04-21T02:32:47Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> Arien wrote, “189. Who said ‘Oh no, not another fucking elf!’ when Tolkien read his work to the Inklings?”
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> Hugo Dyson (who had an uncredited role in the movie _Darling_).

Ooh, I didn’t think anyone would get that. I thought they’d think it was C.S. Lewis.

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> 1. Who was the first Steward of Gondor?

I know that Hurin (not the same as the father of Turin) founded the line of Stewards where that position was hereditary, but I don’t know if he was the first Steward or not.

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> 1. What was the name of the very-well-hidden elf city carved out of the mountain, and who were its rulers? For bonus points, name the mountain and the nearby river.

I see that someone named the city, but not its rulers. The first and the founder was Finrod Felagund and after his death the crown passed to his nephew, Orodreth (not his brother , as it was written in the Silmarillion).

1. What happened to the first Minas Tirith (of the first age) and what was it renamed?
2. Who is the only named dwarf woman in Tolkien’s works?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/425 "2006-04-21T03:08:42Z")

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> [@Arien](#):
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> 1. What happened to the first Minas Tirith (of the first age) and what was it renamed?

It was the name for the tower on Tol Sirion, the island in the Sirion at the pass where the river entered Beleriand proper from Ard Galen. Sauron captured it for Morgoth and the island as a whole was renamed Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Island of Werewolves).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/426 "2006-04-21T03:36:53Z")

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> [@Arien](#):
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> I see that someone named the city, but not its rulers. The first and the founder was Finrod Felagund and after his death the crown passed to his nephew, Orodreth (not his brother , as it was written in the Silmarillion).

Correct, of course. 🙂

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> 1. What happened to the first Minas Tirith (of the first age) and what was it renamed?
> 2. Who is the only named dwarf woman in Tolkien’s works?

Oh, booger.

I know Minas Tirith was originally in… Beleriand, and it probably got squashed by one of Morgoth’s boys when he was being a big jerk.

But I know that Dis is the only named dwarf woman. I was just rereading the appendices. 😃

Questions…

1. What is another name for Eregion? For bonus points, in what other fantasy work did the name Eregion appear? Hint – notice I said “fantasy work”, not “novel”.

2. What happened to Elrond’s parents?

3. What was the name of the first queen of Numenor’s mother, and what protofeminist advice did she give her daughter?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/427 "2006-04-21T03:52:44Z")

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> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#):
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> 1. What is another name for Eregion? For bonus points, in what other fantasy work did the name Eregion appear? Hint – notice I said “fantasy work”, not “novel”.

Hollin. I don’t know the bonus answer.

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> 1. What happened to Elrond’s parents?

His father is a constellation and his mother is a seabird. (sounds like a Monty Python sketch, doesn’t it?)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
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> [@jayjay](#):
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> His father is a constellation and his mother is a seabird. (sounds like a Monty Python sketch, doesn’t it?)

Okay, serious answer. His father, Earendil, went sailing to Valinor to beg the Valar for aid against Morgoth. While he was at sea, the sons of Feanor attacked to get the Silmaril that his mother, Elwing, had inherited as Dior’s daughter. Elwing leapt into the sea with the Silmaril around her neck and was transformed into a seagull so she could fly to Earendil with it. Tying the jewel to his forehead, he pierced the Islands of Enchantment and reached Valinor, precipitating the War of Wrath, the final banishment of Morgoth, and the Drowning of Beleriand. Elrond and his brother Elros were captured by the sons of Feanor but were released by a guilt-stricken Maglor.

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> 1. Who was the first Steward of Gondor?
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> I know that Hurin (not the same as the father of Turin) founded the line of Stewards where that position was hereditary, but I don’t know if he was the first Steward or not.

Hurin of Emyn Arnen was the first _known_ steward, yes. I should have phrased the question better.

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1. Wasn’t it Erendis? And didn’t she tell her daughter not to trust men?

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Oh, and **Arien** , while stewards were selected from the House of Hurin of Emyn Arnen, it wasn’t yet a hereditary (father to son) arrangement until later.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/432 "2006-04-21T19:21:44Z")

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> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#):
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> 1. What is another name for Eregion? For bonus points, in what other fantasy work did the name Eregion appear? Hint – notice I said “fantasy work”, not “novel”.

Star Wars.

1. What month and day of the year does Frodo regain consciousness in Rivendell and have his conversation with Gandalf? (Easy for me since it’s my birthdate.)

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/433 "2006-04-21T19:26:00Z")

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> 1. Who is the only named dwarf woman in Tolkien’s works?

I don’t recall, but she was the mother of Fili and Kili.

Or at least, she’s the only named Dwarvish woman _that we know of_. Is it ever explicitly stated that all of the Thirteen of Thorin’s company were male? I mean, it’s not like any non-Dwarf can tell the difference.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/434 "2006-04-21T19:51:12Z")

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1. Post-War of the Ring, what is New Year’s Day in Gondor?

2. Where or what was the low-grade pipeweed that Barliman Butterbur offered Frodo & Co?

3. By what name where Frodo & Co known as after the Battle of Bywater?

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211 - New Year’s Day was celebrated on the day the ring was destroyed and Sauron fell; I think that’s March 25, which is also celebrated as Tolkien Reading Day around the world.

213 - Weren’t they called “The Travelers”?

Question:  
214 - Which is the only animal whose thoughts are described in the entire LOTR?

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> [@5 time champ](#):
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> 1. Where or what was the low-grade pipeweed that Barliman Butterbur offered Frodo & Co?

Southlinch or South Linch, “Though I’m all for Bree in most things.”

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> 1. By what name where Frodo & Co known as after the Battle of Bywater?

Lordly folk.

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> [@well he's back](#):
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> 211 - New Year’s Day was celebrated on the day the ring was destroyed and Sauron fell; I think that’s March 25, which is also celebrated as Tolkien Reading Day around the world.
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> 213 - Weren’t they called “The Travelers”?
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> Question:  
> 214 - Which is the only animal whose thoughts are described in the entire LOTR?

There was a fox? in the Shire as the Hobbits were cutting cross country who wondered what they were up to.

1. Who led Dale during the War of the Ring?

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tolkien-trivia-contest/351963/438 "2006-04-21T20:27:49Z")

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> 1. Who led Dale during the War of the Ring?

Brand, son of Bard, son of Bain.

Merry & Pippin were referred to as “lordly folk”

All four of the hobbits were known as The Travellers.

1. Who were the Nine Walkers?

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> [@5 time champ](#):
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> Brand, son of Bard, son of Bain.
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> Merry & Pippin were referred to as “lordly folk”
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> All four of the hobbits were known as The Travellers.
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> 1. Who were the Nine Walkers?

1. Nine Walkers for Nine Riders.  
Gandalf, Aragorn, Boromir, Legolas, Gimli, Frodo, Samwise, Merry & Pippin.

Brand was correct.

I put up a question or 3 later.

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Yes, fox is the correct answer to my question 214.

I don’t have any other answers, but here’s a couple of easy questions:

1. What anachronism described Gandalf’s fireworks?

2. How did Sam’s daughter get her name?

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