# Tom Brady has a shot at a few SB records

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**Created:** [January 24, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537 "2012-01-24T21:03:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/1 "2012-01-24T21:03:33Z")

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He needs 142 yards and 5 TDs for those records. If he can increase these stats he’ll set records:

Completion %: 64.1 to 70.0  
QB rating: 94.1 to 127.8  
Avg yard gained: 6.42 to 11.1

Do any math inclined Dopers know how I can figure out what kinda day he needs for the rate records?

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/2 "2012-01-24T21:13:59Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> He needs 142 yards and 5 TDs for those records. If he can increase these stats he’ll set records:
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> Completion %: 64.1 to 70.0  
> QB rating: 94.1 to 127.8  
> Avg yard gained: 6.42 to 11.1
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> Do any math inclined Dopers know how I can figure out what kinda day he needs for the rate records?

Not 100% sure I understand the post, but…

If you’re saying that he currently has a 64.1 career Super Bowl completion percent, and you want to know how good a day he needs t make that a 70% rate for his career, then I’d say it’s basically impossible, considering the weight of four previous Superbowls’ stats. Same with QB rating and average yards gained.

No, I haven’t checked the numbers.

ETA : Having trouble finding his SB-only stats. Oh, well.

He’ll certainly pass for 142 yards, and 5 TDs is possible.

Joe

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/3 "2012-01-24T21:18:09Z")

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Aren’t those records single-game performances rather than aggregate? In that case, he wouldn’t have to increase his 4-game average; he would just have to do better than the record for this game.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/4 "2012-01-24T21:28:04Z")

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All the records are career. And I forgot to mention, I found them in the SI Sports Almanac. And yes, my question is, “What kind of line would he need to get the career leads?” I figured out that 40-44 would yield the Comp % record. My math mojo isn’t up top the QB rating.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/5 "2012-01-24T21:33:11Z")

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Pro Football Reference (in the “splits” tab) lists him as 100/156 attempts/completions; he would need to go 31-for-31 (or 34-for-35 or 37-for-39…) to bump that up to 70%.

He’d have to do something ludicrous like throw for 1,000 yards on 35 attempts to get the yards/attempt record. He theoretically could do it in 9 attempts, if he averaged a 91-yard touchdown with each attempt.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/6 "2012-01-24T21:41:26Z")

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Thanks **Tom**! I knew the yds/comp record was outta reach.

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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/7 "2012-01-24T21:42:06Z")

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From wiki, Brady’s stats in 4 Super Bowls are 101 of 156, 1001 yards, 7 TDs, and 1 int, with a rating of 95.05 according to this site: [http://www.primecomputing.com/](http://www.primecomputing.com/)

I don’t know what the record is for career rating (with how many games/passes for minimums?), but you can add figures you think are possible to that site to see what the overall rating would be. If he goes 40/44 for, say 400 yards, and 5 TDs and 0 ints, he would have a career rating of 107.94, according to the site noted above.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/8 "2012-01-24T21:49:18Z")

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with a min 40 att Montana’s rating was 127.8

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**Author:** ![President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/President_Johnny_Gentle)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/9 "2012-01-24T21:53:38Z")

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Not a chance for any of them, except career yardage and TDs.

If I’ve got things entered correctly, I found the following, simulating the results of a few games.

If Brady replicates his Denver performance (26/34, 363 yds, 6 TD/1 int) he’ll improve to a career completion rate of 66.8%, a career QB rating of 106.1, and yds/att of 7.18.

If he replicates his best all-around statistical day ever (21/54, 354, 6/0), he improves to 67.4%, 111.1, and 7.49.

If he takes his best days ever in Frankenstein fashion (23/26, 517, 6/0), he improves to 68.1%, 115.1, and 8.34.

On a whim, I also checked out a perfectly average SB by his standards (25/39, 250 yds, 2/0). Of course, the completion and yds/att hardly change, but QBR rises to 95.9.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/10 "2012-01-24T21:55:35Z")

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Phil Simms was 22 of 25 against the Broncos, for an 88% completion rate. It’s hard to imagine anyone doing better than that.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/11 "2012-01-24T21:56:11Z")

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Figured the rates were unlikely, but didn’t want tp just post the yards and TD records without something else to say.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/12 "2012-01-24T21:56:53Z")

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I would say he’s a lock to break the passing yards record, but I don’t think he’s going to throw for five touchdowns.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/13 "2012-01-24T21:59:02Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> He’d have to do something ludicrous like throw for 1,000 yards on 35 attempts to get the yards/attempt record.

BTW I forgot to carry the “1” there; 1,000 on 35 wouldn’t cut it, he’d have to get it in 25 attempts.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-brady-has-a-shot-at-a-few-sb-records/610537/14 "2012-01-24T22:08:04Z")

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it’s probably also hard to find records to break because he already owns the passes completed and passes attempted (career) at 100 out of 155 respectively, as well as passes completed in a game - 32 - that he shares with brees.
