Tom Clancy book?

Ryan is affirmed as Vice President by voice vote of both the Congress and the Senate on national TV, though he isn’t yet sworn in.

The constitutional crisis comes from the former Vice President’s resignation being accepted before the Capitol is destroyed, but not formally made public. Kealty arranges to have the letter to the Secretary of State stolen before it can be discoverd; ergo, he was still vice president; ergo, when official Washington was wiped out, he became president, regardless of the affirmation of Jack Ryan.

In “The Sum Of All Fears”, the Super Bowl is held at a fictional domed stadium in Denver, not Mile High Stadium.

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How is this going to be represented in the movie? There’s no way in hell the NFL will have any part in this (I mean come on, Any Given Sunday was too shocking for them). Are all the teams, players, and stuff going to be fictional? Although if he can use the names in a book why not in a movie?

I remember almost going to be an extra in that scene with the stadium (missed it for some reason or another). I remember reading in the instructions that the two teams are fictional, and wearing different uniforms than NFL teams, IIRC. Of course, I could be wrong; we have to wait and see.

This thread started as a GQ, but I think Cafe Society is the more appropriate place for it now.

bibliophage
moderator GQ

IANAL, but I would guess that it would not be due to problems using the names themselves, but the logos, uniforms, and fonts used for the teams, as well as the NFL “shield” logo, which are all (I think) copywrited. The film could probably call a team the “Minnesota Vikings,” for example, but the filmmakers would need to create new logos and uniforms, anyway.

In Black Sunday, a terrorist tries to crash the Goodyear blimp into the Super Bowl with a bomb on the underside of the blimp that would shoot out poison-filled needles. Film from SB X, featuring the Cowboys and the Steelers, was used throughout the movie (including Lynn Swann’s phenomenal mid-field catch). New footage was shot using extras wearing replica uniforms.

I bet the NFL cooperated because they thought, at the time, that such a thing would never happen. Now, I wonder if they’ll go along with this new movie.

Jeff,
Remember, the Netforce books and Opcenter he doesn’t actually write. I think he laid the groundwork for the series, but he doesn’t appear as author, at least on most.

lno,
The bombers are probably really Bills fans, as they don’t want to see the Vikes end their string of futility first…:smiley:

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Heres an editorial Clancy writes about the WTC tragedy. It will be in todays or tommarows Wall Street Journal.

I have found most of Clancy’s fiction to be highly accurate. A personal friend has confirmed Clancy’s description of a basement full of Cray supercomputers at the National Security Agency. I am currently wading through “Bear and Dragon” and his description of the Dark Star unmanned drones is perfectly in keeping with today’s capabilities.

His sort of hard military fiction is similar to David Brin’s hard science fiction. They both obtain an extra level of realism from the scrupulous use of viable technologies. The shadowing aerobatic attack maneuvers in “Debt of Honor” were especially cunning. The fusion bomb building description in “Sum of All Fears” was simply hair raising. The level of technical accuracy is very disturbing.

The Dale Brown novel referenced earlier in this thread is Storming Heaven. The plotline involves terrorists who utilize aircraft (mostly private airplanes, not hijacked airlines IIRC) to bomb targets in the US for the purpose of making a profit (holding stocks in companies likely to profit from such disasters). I was surprised to see that the government’s response to the recent tragedy was so close to what Brown predicted.

I think Sum of All Fears was really the top of Clancy’s form, though the later ones have their good points, the shock value of the finale of Debt of Honor being one of the best. I think the increasing divergence of the Jack Ryan timeline from that of the real world is an ongoing handicap, though they can still make for interesting alternate-universe science fiction.

I’m not sure what the Sum of All Fears movie is going to be mutated into. Much of the effort-to-spark-WWIII subplot was already politically obsolete (no more Russians in East Berlin), and I’ve heard that, in the wake of the WTC disaster, they’re likely to change the villains to a militia group rather than Arab terrorists.

Of course, that also throws out what I think was the best twist in the book (warning, spoiler coming), and the one most potentially relevant to current events – the terrorists allowing themselves to be tortured into revealing that they acted under the orders of Iran. In fact, they did not, but hope that by “confessing” they will precipitate a retaliatory nuclear strike against Iran, causing carnage that will turn countless more in the Middle East and elsewhere against the US.

Semi-hijack:

Anyone know when the next fiction is coming out? He usually released in the summer, IIRC, and I didn’t see any coming (Was it Putnam?) so maybe next year?

Doesn’t he usually release every TWO years? The darn things are long enough!

And am I the only person who liked Rainbow Six better than the Jack Ryan series?

Not according to USA Today:

I agree that the quality has fallen off. Chop out a third (or half) of Clancy’s recent books and you’d have a tight, fast paced, exciting story, just like Hunt for Red October. Instead you get pages and pages of unnecessary, or even repetitive, drudge, some of it so bad I wonder whether Clancy even bothered to read it through once he was finished. The interestng stories are still there, the interesting technology is still there (like the heat seeking cluster bombs that take out the Chinese army - those were cool), but it’s all buried. If you’d give a good editor a month or two to trim it down it could be great. I have a feeling though, that Clancy is so big now that the editors are afraid to say anything, and, hell, it still sells, so why bother.

IMHO

Red October A-
Red Storm B+
Cardinal Kremlin A+
Patriot Games B-
Sum of All Fears B
Debt of Honor B-
Without Remorse B
Rain Bow Six D
Bear/Dragon C

Executive Orders I did not read. Did I miss any?

Icerigger - CLear and Present Danger ?
Watsonwil - usually every 2 years, but not always. Without Remorse and Debt of Honor were 1 year apart, and Patriot, Kremlin, and Clear were consecutive. According to B&N, of 10 I checked, only Sum of All Fears and EXecutive were not July or August releases. Guess it’s next year…

I thought they were at the Olympics in Australia, because there was a pregnant wife back home…?? Chavez IIRC.

Kim “Been there, read dem”

No. Executive orders had the Ebola in the US. Rainbow Six had the Ebola in Australia.

Nope, that’s Rainbow Six.