# Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716 "2012-06-29T17:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/181 "2012-07-04T23:26:25Z")
Look I totally agree about the papparazzi. They’ve been out of control as long as I’ve been alive,a nd that’s way too long. I still can’t help noticing that Suri’s shoes are bad for developing feet, and her skirts are often too short. And her outfits in general are very adult. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/182 "2012-07-05T00:26:33Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I still can’t help noticing that Suri’s shoes are bad for developing feet, and her skirts are often too short. And her outfits in general are very adult. Oh lord. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/183 "2012-07-05T00:47:54Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Look I totally agree about the papparazzi. They’ve been out of control as long as I’ve been alive, and that’s way too long. Well said. > [@TruCelt](#): > > I still can’t help noticing that Suri’s shoes are bad for developing feet, and her skirts are often too short. And her outfits in general are very adult. Um… :eek: No, this is just… 😕 Really? :dubious: The irony, she burn. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/184 "2012-07-05T00:48:51Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > She is a cutie, and her parents are famous, so I can kinda see the paparazzi’s interest, but I wish the days when kids were off limits unless they were at an official function were still with us. Ugh, those parasites. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/185 "2012-07-05T17:04:45Z")
It seems to me that there is too much of the “Protesting Lady” in the comment from her publicists that “…her only concern is for her child(ren?)…” or whatever it was. Sounds to me like she was a regular trollop, with all of this. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/186 "2012-07-05T17:10:49Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > I agree. I used to listen to a ton of podcasts, and every now and then would be a story about Tom Cruise. > > All of them described him as a great guy and real supportive. > > Want to know how many didn’t 0 Were these on a gay channel? Just joking. I’m a regular card. ---
**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/187 "2012-07-05T17:24:55Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > You and others see a picture [like this one](http://cdn2.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/katie-holmes-suri-cruise.jpg), and cluck disapprovingly. But there’s another side to that picture. > > Now look at [this picture](http://secondwednesday.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_8785_suri-cruise-yells-at-paparazzi-while-with-mom-katie-holmes-in-nyc.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2012/04/76491PCN_Suri05.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/25/article-2119997-124E234C000005DC-746_468x463.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-ent-120418-suri.photoblog600.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://static.poponthepop.com/images/gallery/suri-cruise-scared_532x799.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-RhKwfKnORU/Sw8T2y6or2I/AAAAAAAAACM/FUMX8VRF51U/s1600/photo%2822%29.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://vickybonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Tom-Cruise-Suri-NYC-12-16-11.jpg). > > And [this picture](http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2012/04/76465PCN_Cruise01.jpg). > > I could keep going. That’s what Suri Cruise has had to deal with EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. she’s taken outside since the day she was born.. This makes me feel terrible for ever buying an US Weekly to read on a plane. Poor little thing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/188 "2012-07-05T18:01:22Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > It seems to me that there is too much of the “Protesting Lady” in the comment from her publicists that “…her only concern is for her child(ren?)…” or whatever it was. Sounds to me like she was a regular trollop, with all of this. Huh? No wonder Katie Holmes is divorcing Tom Cruise, the very existence of their marriage has made people go loco. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/189 "2012-07-05T18:05:29Z")
Mr. Shoe has a theory that they married as a contract: she puts up with his crazy ass for seven years, and bears him a child. Time’s up, so now she’s divorcing. And I, too, also hope Suri’s best interests are protected. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/190 "2012-07-05T18:08:35Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > And people (not you) talk shit about her _sometimes_ looking disheveled, tired, pouty, unhappy, being carried, clutching a security blanket, acting like a little diva. Looking at all those pictures makes me want to clutch a security blanket. ☹ Props to anyone who has to deal with that on a regular basis and doesn’t flip their lid. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/191 "2012-07-05T18:33:07Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Several things trouble me about Holmes’ actions: The report that Cruise was blind-sided by her filing, that he’d just days ago reported that his marriage was great, that she filed when he was thousands of miles away, that she moved out immediately into another apartment, and that she immediately fired his bodyguard cronies. It appears that she’d been planning this for awhile, and playing along that everything was fine to her spouse. IMO, she’s either very calloused and calculating or she’s afraid of him. I’m quite confident that any bodyguards employed by Tom Cruise are Scientologists, reporting directly to [David Miscavige](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miscavige). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/192 "2012-07-05T19:25:21Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > She could also be having her biological clock going off - remember when they were all dopey and “in love” and preggers with Suri and they couldn’t wait to have more kids? Strangely, after Suri was born (presumably the $cientology way) there weren’t any more babies… > > 😉 > > I for one say about damn time. She stuck it out way longer than I would have imagined. I wish her all the best fighting off the nutjobs during the custody battle. What is the Scientology way of bearing babies? ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/193 "2012-07-05T19:30:13Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > What is the Scientology way of bearing babies? Silently. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/194 "2012-07-05T19:47:36Z")
You do realize that Hubbard got that idea from a Christmas carol, right? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/195 "2012-07-05T19:59:21Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > What is the Scientology way of bearing babies? [Silent Birth](http://www.scientologynews.org/faq/what-is-silent-birth.html) ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/196 "2012-07-05T20:10:59Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Mr. Shoe has a theory that they married as a contract: she puts up with his crazy ass for seven years, and bears him a child. Time’s up, so now she’s divorcing. And I, too, also hope Suri’s best interests are protected. The “contract” idea is so stupid that I can’t believe anyone seriously buys it as the truth. – Katie Holmes was already rich before she married Cruise. – Katie Holmes was already an up-and-coming actress before she married Cruise. So what does she get out of it? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/197 "2012-07-05T20:41:18Z")
[Quote=purplehorseshoe] Mr. Shoe has a theory that they married as a contract: she puts up with his crazy ass for seven years, and bears him a child. Time’s up, so now she’s divorcing. And I, too, also hope Suri’s best interests are protected. [/quote] This [blog post](http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/06/katie_holmes_scientology_sec_checking_suri_tom_cruise.php) surmises that the timing is because its getting to be the time Scientologist children start to be audited, and she’s trying to protect Suri from that. > [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > Is there any significance in filing for divorce in NY rather than California? I’m not familiar with US divorce laws. At the end of the above post a lawyer adds his theory that a New York judge won’t be as easy on Scientology as a Los Angeles one would, which will help Katie in a custody fight. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/198 "2012-07-06T04:23:57Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Looking at all those pictures makes me want to clutch a security blanket. ☹ Props to anyone who has to deal with that on a regular basis and doesn’t flip their lid. > [@Zjestika](#): > > This makes me feel terrible for ever buying an US Weekly to read on a plane. Poor little thing. You think the pictures above are bad, imagine all the flashbulbs going off, and the sounds of the cameras clicking and in some cases, paparazzi yelling at Suri to look at them. Here’s [the scum in action](http://youtu.be/FuRl1TwvRgA). This is [another](http://youtu.be/gOLvo18QZNA). The first few seconds are pretty horrifying. Then a kinda creepy song starts that goes with the rest. It was painful to watch. I was going to go looking for more of the same but that was so stomach-churning I just can’t. Poor little thing is right. She didn’t ask to be born to famous parents. Not that it’ll make any difference at all, but I’m going to actively boycott any site that runs Suri pictures unless those photos are from an official event, like a movie premiere or something, where cameras are expected. Edit to add… Hypocrite alert: Ok, I just posted pictures and video of Suri, sigh. I’m not going to boycott The Straight Dope. ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/199 "2012-07-06T17:39:58Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I think that Cruise is a total whackadoodle. His people have been very careful about controlling his image by pretty much keeping him silent, but the occasional slip where the real Tom has come out has left no doubt in my mind that he’s gone off the deep edge. > > The most notable slips were the Oprah incident, the leaked Scientology recruitment video (which was mocked by Jerry O’Connell) and his interview with Matt Lauer, where he clearly believed that he knew _the truth_about postpartum depression, and it was his RESPONSIBILITY to spread the word. > > Several things trouble me about Holmes’ actions: The report that Cruise was blind-sided by her filing, that he’d just days ago reported that his marriage was great, that she filed when he was thousands of miles away, that she moved out immediately into another apartment, and that she immediately fired his bodyguard cronies. It appears that she’d been planning this for awhile, and playing along that everything was fine to her spouse. IMO, she’s either very calloused and calculating or she’s afraid of him. I think Katie Holmes is a better actress than she’s been given credit for. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/200 "2012-07-07T05:14:22Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > I don’t endorse Scientology (it’s fucking ridiculous) but I do find it fucking pathetic the number of people here posting pretty harsh things about a guy they’ve never met. You know who _else_ I post harsh things about, _and_ is a guy I haven’t met? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=11)