# Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716 "2012-06-29T17:54:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/41 "2012-06-29T20:28:46Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Mimi Rogers  
> Nicole Kidman  
> Katie Holmes
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> Just for giggles, anybody want to guess who’s next? Someone younger than Katie, obviously, up-and-coming actress trying to make a career move, etc.
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> I’m gonna go with Blake Lively.

How about Dakota Fanning? They’ve worked together before, and it’s not like he’s her _real_ father.

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**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/42 "2012-06-29T20:33:00Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> She could also be having her biological clock going off - remember when they were all dopey and “in love” and preggers with Suri and they couldn’t wait to have more kids? Strangely, after Suri was born (presumably the $cientology way) there weren’t any more babies…

I imagine she realized that she had a baby with a crazyperson who was going to now be a part of both of their lives forever. I’m surprised they stayed together for so long after Suri was born.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/43 "2012-06-29T20:34:58Z")

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So I’m gonna say it, even though no one will agree with me cuz it’s “everyone make fun of Tom Cruise” time but…

I feel kinda bad for the guy. I obviously don’t know how Hollywood works, and what is real and what isn’t and all that jazz, but if he was genuinely in love with her as much as Oprah’s couch seemed to be…then he’s probably pretty hurt at this because she’s leaving him. It’s not amicable, it’s not irreconcilable differences, he’s losing his wife. I mean the article even says he’s “deeply saddened”.

I’ll admit I’m a total sap for love and happiness and what not but I, for one, feel genuinely sad for Tom Cruise

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**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/44 "2012-06-29T20:35:53Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I figured she’d be returned to the Paramount prop department.

Dick Cavett? Is that you?

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/45 "2012-06-29T20:37:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Whatever the guy’s faults, and there many of them, he’s made (and continues to make) some of the more entertaining films of our age, and is presently getting rave reviews for his most recent release where he plays, of all things, a rock star.

I’m no film snob, but I can’t think of one movie he’s made that was particularly entertaining.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/46 "2012-06-29T20:38:05Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Mimi Rogers  
> Nicole Kidman  
> Katie Holmes

For my money, his wives are getting less attractive as he goes along.

Don’t get me wrong, both Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes are certainly good looking women, but in her prime, Mimi Rogers was a stone-cold stunner, light years hotter than either of his subsequent wives…

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/47 "2012-06-29T20:39:42Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Does Scientology require that the divorce be a silent procedure?

If there’s one thing that’s consistent in Tom Cruise’s life is that NONE of his exes has ever said anything disparagingly of him (At least not that I’m aware of).

Rebecca De Mornay - 1983–85  
Mimi Rogers - 1987-90  
Nicole Kidman 1990-01  
Penélope Cruz 2001-04,  
Katie Holmes 2005-12

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/48 "2012-06-29T20:41:00Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> She’s 33. She does look young for her age, but I don’t think she qualifies as a younger actress anymore.

And there’s one thing she learned in all those thirty-three years: sometimes you just gotta say “what the fuck”— make your move.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/49 "2012-06-29T20:51:05Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> She’s 16 years younger than he is, though.

That just makes him old, it doesn’t make her young.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/50 "2012-06-29T20:52:05Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> That just makes him old, it doesn’t make her young.

I said “younger” (as in relative to him, not young in an absolute sense) deliberately.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/51 "2012-06-29T20:58:23Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Just for giggles, anybody want to guess who’s next?

Hmm, how about someone coming off a previous marriage to a nut-job, so well-versed in handling it? Someone with a flashy public persona. Bonus points, he doesn’t have to learn a new name.

Katy Perry.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/52 "2012-06-29T21:03:38Z")

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> [@Barrett\_Bonden](#):
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> Dick Cavett? Is that you?

Did he make the same joke? A coworker made a similar joke and I ran with it. Pretty low-hanging fruit.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/53 "2012-06-29T21:08:26Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> So is he going to be going to Oprah’s and jumping _off_ her sofa this time?
> 
> [Hailee Steinfeld](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2794962/).

My vote is for Anne Heche although she is not young she does seem to be a chameleon and able to adapt her prefernces as best fits her carreer.Maybe she can extend that to her virginity?

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/54 "2012-06-29T21:16:31Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Whatever the guy’s faults, and there many of them, he’s made (and continues to make) some of the more entertaining films of our age, and is presently getting rave reviews for his most recent release where he plays, of all things, a rock star.

The people posting here could clearly give a flip about Cruise’s acting, it’s all about his sex life for them.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/55 "2012-06-29T21:20:45Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> If there’s one thing that’s consistent in Tom Cruise’s life is that NONE of his exes has ever said anything disparagingly of him (At least not that I’m aware of).

Thanks, but I was making a Scientology joke. Reportedly Holmes had a silent childbirth delivery, for religious reasons.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/56 "2012-06-29T21:28:18Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> If there’s one thing that’s consistent in Tom Cruise’s life is that NONE of his exes has ever said anything disparagingly of him (At least not that I’m aware of).

Tom Cruise and other people in his situation have very helpful people that ensure that non-disclosure agreements are signed and money exchanged before anything happens. Even for one night stands.

I used to assume they would never say anything, ever.

The recent people coming forth about Travolta, suggest that the wall of silence is far more permeable than I had thought.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/57 "2012-06-29T21:45:15Z")

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Wasn’t it Mimi Rogers who started the gay rumors by saying the reason she divorced him was because she wanted to have sexton and Tom didn’t seem interested?

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/58 "2012-06-29T22:01:01Z")

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If she gets sole custody of Suri, it will certainly reignite speculation that Chris Klein is the bio-father, not Cruise.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/59 "2012-06-29T22:20:30Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> +1 I hope/expect she’ll revert to her Catholicism. (She’s Catholic IIRC)

From one cult to another? I for one hope she just learns to think for herself.

Right before his birthday though, ouch. That’s gotta sting.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/60 "2012-06-29T22:36:14Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> The people posting here could clearly give a flip about Cruise’s acting, it’s all about his sex life for them.

I don’t think Cruise is a bad actor; he’s done some very good work in films like _Born on the Fourth of July_. But he’s allowed his personal life to overshadow his career with all the silly couch-jumping, contrived PDA’s with Katie Holmes, public criticism of psychiatry, and all around nut-jobbery. If no one talks about Cruise as an actor anymore then he has no one to blame but himself.

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