# Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716 "2012-06-29T17:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/61 "2012-06-29T22:38:11Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > If there’s one thing that’s consistent in Tom Cruise’s life is that NONE of his exes has ever said anything disparagingly of him (At least not that I’m aware of). I thought that Mimi Rogers said that he was like a monk when it came to sex. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/62 "2012-06-29T22:48:46Z")
> [@SaharaTea](#): > > I don’t think Cruise is a bad actor; he’s done some very good work in films like _Born on the Fourth of July_. But he’s allowed his personal life to overshadow his career with all the silly couch-jumping, contrived PDA’s with Katie Holmes, **public criticism of psychiatry** , and all around nut-jobbery. If no one talks about Cruise as an actor anymore then he has no one to blame but himself. Don’t be so glib! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/63 "2012-06-29T22:52:47Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > If she gets sole custody of Suri, it will certainly reignite speculation that Chris Klein is the bio-father, not Cruise. I’d never heard this. What’s the theory? ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/64 "2012-06-29T23:15:01Z")
> [@Zjestika](#): > > I’d never heard this. What’s the theory? Klein is Katie’s ex. They split quite soon before she got involved with Cruise. Suri was conceived very early in the Holmes/Cruise relationship, and no photos of her were released publicly until many months after her birth. Cruise had been married twice previously with no bio-children (Nicole Kidman’s miscarriage being the only exception), and he was believed to be infertile. The delay on the baby photo release was considered significant because it’s easier to tell a week old baby from a two month old than it is to tell a six month old baby from an eight month old. Katie was suspected of wearing padding in public for a couple of months after Suri’s actual birth. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/65 "2012-06-29T23:31:29Z")
That seems an excessively elaborate ruse. Suri looks so much like her Mother it’s hard to know for sure, but I think there’s a hint of Cruise to her. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/66 "2012-06-29T23:32:38Z")
Is there any significance in filing for divorce in NY rather than California? I’m not familiar with US divorce laws. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/67 "2012-06-29T23:33:22Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > That seems an excessively elaborate ruse. > > Suri looks so much like her Mother it’s hard to know for sure, but I think there’s a hint of Cruise to her. But GuanoLad, I read it on a gossip site, so it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/68 "2012-06-29T23:49:56Z")
If Katie married Tom to boost her career, it didn’t [work](http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/29/tom_cruise_and_katie_holmes_to_divorce_whose_career_has_benefited_more_.html). ---
**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/69 "2012-06-29T23:55:43Z")
> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > Is there any significance in filing for divorce in NY rather than California? I’m not familiar with US divorce laws. I don’t know much, except that New York does not have “No-fault” as an option. I’m not sure whether that makes things harder for the person filing or easier. I have to assume she has better lawyers than I did, and consulted them about her plan of action. ---
**Author:** ![PandaBear77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@PandaBear77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PandaBear77)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/70 "2012-06-30T00:39:51Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > +1 I hope/expect she’ll revert to her Catholicism. (She’s Catholic IIRC) I said the same thing when I heard. I figure her parents had to have been devastated when she married that cad. I hope she gets away from the Scientology bullshit and goes back to her roots. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/71 "2012-06-30T01:33:27Z")
> [@gwendee](#): > > He could date Taylor Swift and then dump her and she could write a song about it. What fresh hell would that be if she married him and started writing Scientology influenced music? Country-Xenu music then? ---
**Author:** ![Einsatzgroping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Einsatzgroping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einsatzgroping)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/72 "2012-06-30T01:34:06Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing ‘Katie Holmes divorcing Tom Cruise’, it the more correct sentence strutcture, methinks. It was to be expected. Not so much from the get-go; as “love” can often make people blind (and stupid) to their partner’s lunacy. But, almost certainly more because once Holmes became maternal, it was only a matter of time she would abandon the Loon Boat, child in her arms. No good mother would ever allow the fruit of their loins fragile, impressionable mind be indoctrinated by _any_ ficititious belief system. Let alone the Prometheus-level ridiculousness of Scientology. Polluting the mind of a child in its formative years is the very epitome of CHILD ABUSE. “_Give me your child for its first seven years and I’ll give you the man_”, is not a Jesuit saying coined without basis or precedent. It’s an axiom. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/73 "2012-06-30T03:02:06Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Did he make the same joke? A coworker made a similar joke and I ran with it. Pretty low-hanging fruit. Cavett was playing the Narrator in Rocky Horror Revival on Broadway around the time the Kidman/Cruise divorce was hitting the press. During one of his improvised chats with the audience, he made some reference to the divorce before adding, “The children, I understand, have been returned to the props closet.” ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/74 "2012-06-30T03:03:14Z")
> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > Is there any significance in filing for divorce in NY rather than California? I’m not familiar with US divorce laws. The prevailing theory is that it will be easier for her to get the full legal custody she’s looking for in NY than in CA, which prefers to go the joint route. I’d expect Tom to wage a battle to get the eventual divorce proceedings moved to CA as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/75 "2012-06-30T04:09:41Z")
I, for one, would like to say that I’m sorry to hear it. I never met her, but I thought she was really sweet (if only from what I read). I really thought that they’d make it. Tom was (and I hope IS) a gentleman. He’s also someone I owe an apology too (not that he’d read it here). Way back in the day, he said “hi” to me once… after HS… but it was at the end of a really bad day for me. I’d lost a job that day (the guy who let me go was a total prick about it too). I was just getting off a train to walk home in defeat. Tom was walking out of a theater where I think “The Color of Money” was playing. While I was walking by, he said “hi”; he even remembered my name. And I, thinking of no job, mundo unpaid bills, and a monthly train pass which I’d just bought & wouldn’t get to use again that month, of what my parents would say to me when I got home jobless… well I just selfishly walked past him with a blank look on my face. He didn’t know I’d lost a job that day… and yes, I’ve always had the rep of being a miserable A-hole, so he probably thought I was being a jerk. Hell, I WAS a jerk. I’m sorry, Tom. I didn’t have to be so self-absorbed. I could have and should have dealt with it, manned up, and shook off that set back. Instead, I let it make an Ass of me… and to let it hurt someone who didn’t deserve it… someone who was just being nice. You’ll never read this, but I really am sorry. I’m also very sorry that your wife has filed for divorce. I’m sorry for the pain you must be going through tonight. I wish you all of the best, with perhaps just One idea more. I’m not sure if you’d think its viable though… Win. Her. Back. _theme song_ PS- While you’re very creative, any / all help at your disposal, gratis. Because, if its True Love, you Never give up… (The SDMB will disavow any knowledge of your actions…) ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/76 "2012-06-30T04:36:43Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I’m no film snob, but I can’t think of one movie he’s made that was particularly entertaining. The best thing Cruise ever did was his role in **Magnolia**. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/77 "2012-06-30T04:40:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > There were only two good things about that movie, and her nipples were both of them. You may review all of the movies that I watch. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/78 "2012-06-30T05:07:02Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Don’t be so glib! 😃 You don’t know the history of psychology, **etv78**. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/79 "2012-06-30T06:45:04Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I’m no film snob, but I can’t think of one movie he’s made that was particularly entertaining. I can’t stand him as an actor. I see movies he’s in, in SPITE of him, not because of him. I can’t think of a single movie that wouldn’t have been better with almost any other actor in his role. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/80 "2012-06-30T07:45:17Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > If there’s one thing that’s consistent in Tom Cruise’s life is that NONE of his exes has ever said anything disparagingly of him (At least not that I’m aware of). > > Rebecca De Mornay - 1983–85 > Mimi Rogers - 1987-90 > Nicole Kidman 1990-01 > Penélope Cruz 2001-04, > Katie Holmes 2005-12 I’m pretty sure that Kidman did. Of course, I think he converted to Scientology while they were together, which had to be pretty damn creepy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=5)