# Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Divorcing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716 "2012-06-29T17:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/121 "2012-07-01T12:19:14Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I do not understand how Timberlake’s parade of exes are all unbelievably super-hot famous people. How the hell does he do it? He probably drops my name in conversations with them. (That would account for them being exes 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/122 "2012-07-01T13:17:35Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > WTF? Really? You? I think you may need to correct that oversight sometime. I know! The only ones I’ve wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf “You can’t handle the truth!” is about in context). And Erdosain, you’ll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven’t seen. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/123 "2012-07-01T13:29:48Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Eh, does she really need to see Vanilla Sky? And Top Gun is mostly just a joke about the oblivious homoeroticism of the 80s at this point. And the less said about Jerry Macguire the better (God, I hate that movie). She should also make sure to miss Cocktail and Days of Thunder. I will have you know I’m still looking for that young lady in the pink bikini from “Kokomo”. No wonder Carl Wilson croaked after viewing her. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/124 "2012-07-01T13:33:13Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I know! The only ones I’ve wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf “You can’t handle the truth!” is about in context). > > And Erdosain, you’ll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven’t seen. Unless you feel like you need to be punished for something horrible that you’ve done, **do not** watch **Cocktail** or **Days of Thunder**. They are unbelievably bad. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/125 "2012-07-01T13:37:14Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Eh, does she really need to see Vanilla Sky? They may not be great films, but considering how many movies she watches it seems like famous classics like those should at least be seen. Though I’ve never seen _Jerry Maguire_ either. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/126 "2012-07-01T13:38:44Z")
> [@gwendee](#): > > He could date Taylor Swift and then dump her and she could write a song about it. Pleasepleaseplease. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/127 "2012-07-01T13:54:15Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Whatever the guy’s faults, and there many of them, he’s made (and continues to make) some of the more entertaining films of our age, and is presently getting rave reviews for his most recent release where he plays, of all things, a rock star. You can have him man.. Other than that nice work in Tropic THunder I avoid Tom projects.. Just speaking on myself.. Just tired of seeing that “earnest look” he really doen’t have a number two go to move.. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/128 "2012-07-01T13:57:48Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Unless you feel like you need to be punished for something horrible that you’ve done, **do not** watch **Cocktail** or **Days of Thunder**. They are unbelievably bad. That’s not entirely true - they feature a couple of excellent performances from supporting actors Bryan Brown and Robert Duvall, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/129 "2012-07-01T14:34:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That’s not entirely true - they feature a couple of excellent performances from supporting actors Bryan Brown and Robert Duvall, respectively. No supporting actor performance can save those movies. **Cocktail** is probably one of the worst movies I’ve ever had the misfortune of seeing. My wife still has both of these on VHS. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/130 "2012-07-01T14:58:56Z")
I would recommend watching _The Outsiders_ if only for the novelty of seeing the cast before many of them became much bigger stars. And Cruise’s role is pretty small. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/131 "2012-07-01T18:30:35Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I would recommend watching _The Outsiders_ if only for the novelty of seeing the cast before many of them became much bigger stars. And Cruise’s role is pretty small. You can watch him get to shot to hell in _Taps_. ---
**Author:** ![CatherineZeta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@CatherineZeta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatherineZeta)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/132 "2012-07-01T18:53:41Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I know! The only ones I’ve wanted to see are Vampire (for Brad and Kirsten though) and A Few Good Men (just so I know wtf “You can’t handle the truth!” is about in context). > > And Erdosain, you’ll be pleased to know that Cocktail and Days Of Thunder are among the others I haven’t seen. I highly recommend _Interview with the Vampire_. That is the only Tom Cruise movie I’ve seen aside from _Tropic Thunder_\*\* and he was good enough in his role that I frequently forget that he was in it. Not that his performance was forgettable, I mean that as in he played the role well enough that I watched the movie thinking of him as “Lestat” not “Tom Cruise in vampire fangs.” Anyway- I feel bad for Suri not only for her odd lifestyle and parents divorcing, but because it seems like she’s likely to become a pawn in the proceedings which is awful. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/133 "2012-07-02T04:25:23Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Yeah, because Catholocism is so much more logically fact-based and scandal-free.:rolleyes: Yes, it is, compared to Scientology. At least Scientology can be traced back to who made it up and why. And at least the community is actually rather healthy. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/134 "2012-07-02T04:44:59Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Although, I’ve always found it odd that a self-proclaimed, proud virgin would do a nude scene, as she did in [The Gift](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219699/). There were only two good things about that movie, and her nipples were both of them. While I’ve only seen the scene online, separated from the movie itself, it appeared to me that they never show her nipples and her face in the same scene at the same time. In the comments we concluded it was a body double, hence why she could still claim she’d never done a nude scene. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/135 "2012-07-02T05:21:51Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While I’ve only seen the scene online, separated from the movie itself, it appeared to me that they never show her nipples and her face in the same scene at the same time. In the comments we concluded it was a body double, hence why she could still claim she’d never done a nude scene. Oh hell no. She in mondo topless in that movie, and the jubblies are hanging out for all to see. [noparse][Link](http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/27711)[/noparse] (NSFW)(Titties) ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/136 "2012-07-02T12:02:55Z")
My wife and I were at a friend’s house this weekend having a drink and socializing and out of nowhere she says “Did you hear Tom Cruise just shaved his beard?” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/137 "2012-07-02T12:28:11Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Yeah, because Catholocism is so much more logically fact-based and scandal-free.:rolleyes: > [@BigT](#): > > Yes, it is, compared to Scientology. At least Scientology can be traced back to who made it up and why. > > And at least the community is actually rather healthy. This is Cafe Society, not Great Debates. Start a new thread there if you want to discuss the pros and cons of any particular religion. Everyone, please stay on topic. Tom Cruise is obviously the best-known Scientologist out there [sic], and it may well be that religious differences are a factor in this divorce, but Scientology _qua_ Scientology is not the issue here. Thanks, **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![JMH125](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JMH125](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JMH125)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/138 "2012-07-02T12:33:39Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Although, I’ve always found it odd that a self-proclaimed, proud virgin would do a nude scene, as she did in [The Gift](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219699/). There were only two good things about that movie, and her nipples were both of them. I had NO idea she was a virgin when she did that scene, and yes, that was by far the best part of the movie and the only scene i can remember. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/139 "2012-07-02T13:59:47Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Oh hell no. She in mondo topless in that movie, and the jubblies are hanging out for all to see. Wow. Somehow I got it into my head that she was flat chested. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716/140 "2012-07-02T15:17:15Z")
Best line I heard on the subject: > [@Attorney Jeffrey Lichtman](#): > > Why don’t Cruise & Travolta just get married and become Hollywood’s most powerful homosexual Scientology couple? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-divorcing/626716.md?page=8)