# Tom Cruise, fuck you!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 10, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882 "2004-01-10T22:49:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/1 "2004-01-10T22:49:32Z")

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> _Originally vomited forth from the innards of Tom Cruise_\*\*  
> “I was struck by the code of Bushido (the way of the Samurai). It’s powerful, it talks about compassion, helping others, responsibility, integrity … timeless values, ways I identify with,” said Cruise, who has practised scientology for 20 years.
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> “Buddhism is the grandfather of scientology,” added the actor, flanked by Zwick and his Japanese partner Hiroyuki Sanada.\*\*

[Tom Cruise, you’re an idiot.](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1542&e=1&u=/afp/20040109/en_afp/lifestyle_film_france_us_040109185323)

Fuck you! Buddhism, at least from what I’ve seen, is a fairly reasonable religion. Scientology is a crock of shit. Notice the difference? Many people who I love and respect are buddhists, and those who’ve heard your quote have either reacted with amusement or outrage. Great way to earn publicity, Tom.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/2 "2004-01-10T22:54:23Z")

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I like this whole “talking in webdings” thing (Thief!:)). Your rant gets two thumbs up. But really, we already knew scientology was a crock of shit.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/3 "2004-01-10T22:56:25Z")

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In fact, I’m going to make another webdings post just to confuse the shit out of people! I’m gonna make it red, too.  
Is a washed up hack like Tom Cruise really worth getting worked up over? I mean, a Buddhist wouldn’t care what he said, so why should we?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/4 "2004-01-10T23:08:55Z")

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Um, I thought that the samurai were Shinto. Was I wrong?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/5 "2004-01-10T23:14:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadfly \*  
> \*\*[Tom Cruise, you’re an idiot.](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1542&e=1&u=/afp/20040109/en_afp/lifestyle_film_france_us_040109185323)
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> Fuck you! Buddhism, at least from what I’ve seen, is a fairly reasonable religion. Scientology is a crock of shit. Notice the difference? Many people who I love and respect are buddhists, and those who’ve heard your quote have either reacted with amusement or outrage. Great way to earn publicity, Tom. \*\*

Wow. What an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/6 "2004-01-10T23:19:10Z")

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From [this](http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bindex.html) cite:

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> Bushido comes out of Buddhism, Zen, Confucianism, and Shintoism. The combination of these schools of thought and religions has formed the code of warrior values known as Bushido.

I thnk Scientology is plenty dumb, and if _I_ were to compare Scientology and Buddhism, you could consider it insulting. Cruise, not being terribly bright, thinks that Scientology is great. So coming from him, this comparison is clearly meant to be complimentary.

Sure, it’s still a _stupid_ comparison, but Cruise is a practicing Scientologist. After that, any other stupid thing he does can only be anti-climactic.

Finally, can I note that posting entirely in WingDings is fucking annoying, and probably against board rules? Let’s all band together in not making this the next board fad, okay?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/7 "2004-01-10T23:21:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Um, I thought that the samurai were Shinto. Was I wrong? \*\*

Depends on the period, of course, but a mix of Shinto, Buddhist, and touch of Taoism seems to be the case.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/8 "2004-01-10T23:23:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*Wow. What an asshole. \*\*

Me, or Tom Cruise? Or both of us?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/9 "2004-01-10T23:30:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Brutus \*  
> \*\*Depends on the period, of course, but a mix of Shinto, Buddhist, and touch of Taoism seems to be the case. \*\*

Ah, thank you.

Why is anyone surprised anymore by the $cientologists? They believe they’re covered in particles that are the remains of souls that were blown up by some guy named Xenu and they have to be “audited” to get rid of them.

And they are responsible for _Battlefied Earth_. Isn’t that enough?

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/10 "2004-01-11T00:16:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Ah, thank you.
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> Why is anyone surprised anymore by the $cientologists? They believe they’re covered in particles that are the remains of souls that were blown up by some guy named Xenu and they have to be “audited” to get rid of them.
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> And they are responsible for _Battlefied Earth_. Isn’t that enough? \*\*

I’m not surprised. Just perpetually annoyed.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/11 "2004-01-11T00:37:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \*  
> \*\*In fact, I’m going to make another webdings post just to confuse the shit out of people! I’m gonna make it red, too.  
> Is a washed up hack like Tom Cruise really worth getting worked up over? I mean, a Buddhist wouldn’t care what he said, so why should we? \*\*

" just to confuse the shit out of people!" translates into “Just be a jerk” IMO. Do either of you wish to retain your posting privileges on the SDMB? If you do, you will NOT continue to annoy or confuse people.

BTW, no more large pieces of ASCII art, either.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/12 "2004-01-11T00:43:24Z")

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Um, how can Bhuddism be the grandfather of $cientology if the whole Xenu crap happened millenia ago???

Love the quote about Penelope, too. What a smegma.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/13 "2004-01-11T00:45:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \*  
> \*\*" just to confuse the shit out of people!" translates into “Just be a jerk” IMO. Do either of you wish to retain your posting privileges on the SDMB? If you do, you will NOT continue to annoy or confuse people.
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> BTW, no more large pieces of ASCII art, either. \*\*

Point taken, my apologies. What about small pieces of art?

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/14 "2004-01-11T00:48:28Z")

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Sorry about that, chief. Won’t happen again.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/15 "2004-01-11T00:50:35Z")

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This isn’t an art-oriented board. I’d say PROBABLY no more than a sig’s worth…that is, no bigger than four lines long. If you want to play with ASCII art, it would be better to find a board where they enjoy such things. A lot of people here don’t, by all the reports I get.

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**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/16 "2004-01-11T01:52:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \*  
> **Is a washed up hack like Tom Cruise really worth getting worked up over?**

I wish I were a washed up hack like Tom Cruise. More money than I could spend in a lifetime, a women magnet, still being offered multimillion dollar movie roles. Yep, Give me that any day. In trade, I’ll let people call me a washed up hack on message boards.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/17 "2004-01-11T02:48:50Z")

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How many celebrities are scientologists?  
I remember seeing an interveiw with Lisa Marie.  
She said she was strung out, emotionally distressed and walked into the celeb scientology building  
and said Help me!  
I’m sure they must have had oragsms all over the place.  
Help Me.I am rich and actually asking you people for help. Take my millions please!  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/18 "2004-01-11T03:53:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadfly \*  
> \*\*Me, or Tom Cruise? Or both of us? \*\*

Tommy boy.

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**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/19 "2004-01-11T04:38:03Z")

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I really don’t understand the outrage. If Tom Cruise wants to believe in a dippy religion, leave him be. If he or his mates start doing things that harm other people, then and only then would I think one would be justified in raising hell about it.

The comment about Bhuddism and Scientology probably does make sense to Tom, in some interpretation that most of us probably would not agree with. But again, as long as his dippiness is not causing harm, what’s the beef? Just point out where you think he’s wrong to anyone who gives a damn, and move on.

There are so many dippy people in the world; are they really worth getting all hot and bothered over?

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**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/20 "2004-01-11T04:47:19Z")

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If you’re gonna go getting upset every time a Scientologist says something batshit insane, you’re not gonna have a lot of free time.

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