# Tom Cruise on Oprah. Ouch. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193 "2005-05-24T00:06:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/1 "2005-05-24T00:06:20Z")
Did anyone watch this? I only managed to catch a bit (I’m not really a fan), and it was so incredibly painful my eyes were watering. The way he went on and on about being in love, it just reeked of phoniness. Then again, maybe that’s just how he is. Did anyone see the part when Katie Holmes came out and they kissed “passionately” (I saw a clip in the ad for the episode)? Just curious what others thought of the show, and of the lovely couple- 27-year-old virgin and the divorcé with no natural children- in general. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/2 "2005-05-24T00:41:15Z")
It does appear fairly fake to me. I’m seeing Holmes’ pictures everywhere these days. Perhaps I am too cynical but this has marketing ploy written all over it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/3 "2005-05-24T00:43:28Z")
I wonder if Katie is getting paid as much as Nicole and Penelope? ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/4 "2005-05-24T01:15:36Z")
Let’s see. A “straight” movie megastar falls in love with the most beautiful virgin in Hollywood. They both have big summer blockbuster movies coming out. Said megawatt star has a pattern of dating actresses, and suing if his sexuality is questioned. Didn’t Armistead Maupin write about this in one of his “Tales of the City” books? Oh right. That was Rock Hudson… ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/5 "2005-05-24T01:20:03Z")
Kind of reminds me of that “passionate, spontaneous” kiss that Michael Jackson planted on Lisa Marie Presley when those 2 were the hot couple in love. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/6 "2005-05-24T01:20:30Z")
Oh, I think his affection for her is genuine. But considering he’s a 42 year old man and this would be his third trip down the aisle, I take his proclamations of being soooo in love as seriously as I take J.Lo’s. FTR, I think her feelings are genuine at the time that she proclaims them. It’s just that after 15 proclamations, you tend to look a little foolish. Cruise is starting to look a little foolish. They reportedly met in _April_ and that’s just too soon to know whether the relationship will last past the point of Amour Fou. You’d think he’d have that figured out by now and would try to maintain his dignity, if not his privacy. ---
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/7 "2005-05-24T02:24:47Z")
I love it. It proves all along what we suspected; that Cruise is a nutcake. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/8 "2005-05-24T02:25:41Z")
I had to turn the show off very early. My gag reflex . . . ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/9 "2005-05-24T02:33:30Z")
I’m ashamed to be asking such a pathetic personal-lives-of-celebrities question, but I simply must know: what’s with the “27-year-old virgin” comments? Has Katie Holmes actually claimed somewhere that this is true? I mean, she doesn’t exactly have a squeaky-clean, Hilary Duff-like image (as anyone who has seen “The Gift” can attest :eek: ). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/10 "2005-05-24T02:35:07Z")
> [@Winston Bongo](#): > > I’m ashamed to be asking such a pathetic personal-lives-of-celebrities question, but I simply must know: what’s with the “27-year-old virgin” comments? Has Katie Holmes actually claimed somewhere that this is true? I mean, she doesn’t exactly have a squeaky-clean, Hilary Duff-like image (as anyone who has seen “The Gift” can attest :eek: ). I have seen comments by her claiming that she is saving herself for marriage. ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/11 "2005-05-24T02:45:30Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > I have seen comments by her claiming that she is saving herself for marriage. To a middle-aged, closeted gay midget action star? (Nicole called him a gay midget on Letterman right after they split up) I’m sorry, but I’m not sorry. I can’t believe that Tom cruise is a “normal” straight guy. Every photo I’ve seen of Tom & Katie together looks like they’re not really in love, there’s no chemistry and furthermore they’re both shitty actors. Penelope, yes, it looked like there was some chemistry going. Not this time around. I really wish that Tom & Keanu could just openly date other men, but our society being what it is I understand their feeling that they have to hide their sexuality. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/12 "2005-05-24T02:48:06Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > To a middle-aged, closeted gay midget action star? I’ll be surprised if it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/13 "2005-05-24T02:53:55Z")
Mimi Rogers made an odd comment about Cruise after they divorced: she said that he originally aspired to be a monk (which is true- he’s discussed it) and that she honestly felt he’d have been a much happier and much more successful person if he had. That made me wonder if their marriage was ever consummated. Nicole was pregnant when their divorce began (she miscarried). There’s major speculation as to whether it was Cruise’s. (One tabloid claimed that she had the remains saved for DNA testing just to prove it, but I seriously doubt that one.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/14 "2005-05-24T02:55:28Z")
I wonder if Katie will be joining the Dark Si…er, Scientology? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/15 "2005-05-24T03:03:58Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > I wonder if Katie will be joining the Dark Si…er, Scientology? I think she’s into [Imaginetics](http://theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4119). ---
**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/16 "2005-05-24T03:11:02Z")
Pieces of April wasn’t all that bad. > **[Pieces of April (2003) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311648/)** > > Pieces of April: Directed by Peter Hedges. With Katie Holmes, Derek Luke, Oliver Platt, Alison Pill. A wayward daughter invites her dying mother and the rest of her estranged family to her apartment for Thanksgiving dinner. ---
**Author:** ![ZeroGyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47774/32.png) [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/17 "2005-05-24T08:16:06Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Oh, I think his affection for her is genuine. But considering he’s a 42 year old man and this would be his third trip down the aisle, I take his proclamations of being soooo in love as seriously as I take J.Lo’s. FTR, I think her feelings are genuine at the time that she proclaims them. It’s just that after 15 proclamations, you tend to look a little foolish. Cruise is starting to look a little foolish. Just to be fair to Cruise, he was married to Nicole Kidman for almost 11 years, longer than all of J. Lo’s marriages combined. I think Cruise’s problem is that he is such a media whore and so over-the-top charismatic he seems very Hollywood-fake. I don’t question his sexuality because those claims seemed to start as homophobic attacks on him. I do think that the statement by Mimi Rogers and Cruise’s Scientology membership mean he is definitely a little weird. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/18 "2005-05-24T11:51:14Z")
Cruise is a media whore, it seems, when his movies are about to be released. Oh, and shouldn’t he be gearing up to save some lives real soon? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/19 "2005-05-24T11:56:12Z")
From what I’ve heard, one thing they have in common is that they are both virgins. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193/20 "2005-05-24T12:05:58Z")
Well, soon we’ll see Katie Holmes playing the movie girlfriend of a character who only pretends to be interested in women because of his secret identity’s public image. Funny how art imitates life. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-on-oprah-ouch/305193.md?page=2)