# Tom & Katie have baby on the way **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958 "2005-10-05T21:55:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/1 "2005-10-05T21:55:15Z")
Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes (“Kate Cruise” to be), that is. If it’s not just a big internet hoax. Yes, I know celebrity news isn’t important, but I thought a thread on this topic would be a good excuse to bash know-it-all cultist Tom Cruise. It’s one thing to marry someone when you don’t haven’t dated someone for very long; it’s quite another to create a child with them. Play Russian roulette with your own life - not with a child’s. Oh - and off my own topic: new American Heritage has their annual list of most overated /most underated folks in various categories. I nominate Cruise as most overated actor. ---
**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/2 "2005-10-05T22:00:27Z")
You cant buy that sort of publicity, but you can get it for free, IF you have a baby! Troy and Selma. Thats all I’m going to say. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/3 "2005-10-05T22:00:30Z")
…and the seventh seal is broken… ---
**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/4 "2005-10-05T22:29:36Z")
[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/10/05/holmes.cruise.reut/index.html) for those who care. Personally, I think this has “Roxie Hart” written all over it. I wouldn’t be surprised if she “loses the baby” in three months. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/5 "2005-10-05T22:34:14Z")
Oh wow…Now that’s a helluva move against Kidman. Kidman and Cruise had to adopt in order to have a family… Cruise knocks up a woman 15 or so years younger than Kidman. This establishes that the problem with conception of a natural child between Kidman and Cruise to be solely on Nicole. So Kidman is frigid and infertile while Cruise is virile and plowing a cute younger woman for breeding stock. ::snarky:: ---
**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/6 "2005-10-05T22:36:58Z")
I’m not really sure why, but this creeps me out in a _Rosemary’s Baby_ kind of way. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/7 "2005-10-05T22:37:59Z")
Of course, we all assume it’s _Tom’s_ baby… ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/8 "2005-10-05T22:42:09Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > This establishes that the problem with conception of a natural child between Kidman and Cruise to be solely on Nicole. The newspapers here reported that Nicole Kidman was pregnant at the time of her divorce from Tom Cruise and that she subsequently suffered a miscarriage. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/9 "2005-10-05T22:45:39Z")
> [@well he's back](#): > > Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes (“Kate Cruise” to be), that is. If it’s not just a big internet hoax. … > Oh - and off my own topic: new American Heritage has their annual list of most overated /most underated folks in various categories. I nominate Cruise as most overated actor. First, unoriginal, thought: Really? Who’s the father? Second: jeez, American Heritage has changed a lot since the days when it was pretty pictures and Civil War subjects. ---
**Author:** ![Amaranta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Amaranta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amaranta)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/10 "2005-10-05T22:54:38Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > Oh wow…Now that’s a helluva move against Kidman. Kidman and Cruise had to adopt in order to have a family… Cruise knocks up a woman 15 or so years younger than Kidman. This establishes that the problem with conception of a natural child between Kidman and Cruise to be solely on Nicole. So Kidman is frigid and infertile while Cruise is virile and plowing a cute younger woman for breeding stock. > ::snarky:: I thought that Kidman and Cruise adopted because they wanted to, not because they had to? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/11 "2005-10-05T23:03:02Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Second: jeez, American Heritage has changed a lot since the days when it was pretty pictures and Civil War subjects. [hijack]Yeah, it used to be good. The current issue is disgracefully bad.[/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/12 "2005-10-06T01:24:45Z")
IIRC, Tom and his first wife, Mimi Rogers, separated over the not-having-kids issue; she went on to bear kids by her second husband. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/13 "2005-10-06T01:31:58Z")
I’ve picked up a weird subtext in this story. See if you agree - I typed it out (in bold). > [@](#): > > LOS **STRAIGHT** GELES, California (Reuters) – > Tom Cruise **who is totally straight** and fiancee Katie Holmes **neither of whom are crazy** are expecting a **human** baby **because he had heterosexual sex with her** six months into a whirlwind romance that has turned the once intensely private Cruise into a giddy **maybe we shouldn’t have said “giddy”** and very public lover **who is straight**. > > News of the pregnancy was first reported by People magazine Wednesday. A statement from **straight male** Cruise’s publicist, his sister Lee Anne DeVette, added: “Tom and Katie are very excited **and like having sexual intercourse with each other, as men and women occasionally do** , and the entire family is very excited.” Holmes, she said, “has never felt better **about not being a beard**.” Maybe it’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/14 "2005-10-06T01:34:29Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > Oh wow…Now that’s a helluva move against Kidman. Kidman and Cruise had to adopt in order to have a family… Cruise knocks up a woman 15 or so years younger than Kidman. This establishes that the problem with conception of a natural child between Kidman and Cruise to be solely on Nicole. So Kidman is frigid and infertile while Cruise is virile and plowing a cute younger woman for breeding stock. > ::snarky:: Actually, in addition to the miscarriage she suffered right before the divorce, I think she had several early on in the marriage. I bet they name the kid Elron. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/15 "2005-10-06T01:38:07Z")
So, the face huggers got to her. Game over, man. Game over. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/16 "2005-10-06T01:46:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I bet they name the kid Elron. I wonder how many Thetans the little darling will be born with? ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/17 "2005-10-06T01:53:11Z")
I thought she had been going on about how she would be a virgin until marriage? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/18 "2005-10-06T01:54:14Z")
> [@liirogue](#): > > I thought she had been going on about how she would be a virgin until marriage? That was before she got a taste of the Cruise Missile. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/19 "2005-10-06T02:01:05Z")
Babies are bustin out all over! First, Britney, then Tina fey, next Maya, now Katie. Boy? Girl? Scientologist? inquiring minds don’t give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958/20 "2005-10-06T02:05:17Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > That was before she got a taste of the Cruise Missile. More likely Mister Turkey Baster. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-katie-have-baby-on-the-way/324958.md?page=2)