# Tombstone or Wyatte Earp? which one did you like more? why? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127 "2003-07-09T01:00:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/1 "2003-07-09T01:00:10Z")
Both were great movies…But Tombstone seems like the better of the two. Val kilmer as Doc Holliday was unforgetable. He stole the show. “Why Kate, your not wearing a bustle…How lewd.” ---
**Author:** ![moonchilde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3e96dc/32.png) [@moonchilde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonchilde)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/2 "2003-07-09T01:03:35Z")
Tombstone, again for Kilmer (paraphrase) “Yes, you are good to me. Then again, you could be the anti-christ.” ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/3 "2003-07-09T01:14:11Z")
Maybe this post should have been…Your favorite Quote from Tombstone. this is a good one…“Feller crawfished on a bet…then called me a LIAR!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/4 "2003-07-09T01:17:08Z")
Another Tombstone vote. Mainly for Kilmer, but also for the Gunfight at the OK Corral. “You’re a daisy if ya do.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/5 "2003-07-09T01:20:52Z")
“I’ll be your Huckleberry.” **Tombstone** , hands down. The entire cast as just better, the storyline was better, the cinematography was better…everything about it was just plain better. And Kurt Russel pulls off the mustache a hell of a lot better than Costner. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/6 "2003-07-09T01:30:52Z")
Oh, yeah. The best part of Tombstone? No Costner. ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/7 "2003-07-09T01:31:32Z")
Damn it, you guys took the best lines. Tombstone all the way. Val Kilmer, Jason Priestly, Zane Grey, Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott, and Bill Paxton all did a fantastic job! I hated Val Kilmer before this movie (really just becaus he was a jerk in Top Gun, and sometimes that feeling dies hard for me) but I thought he made a perfect Doc Holliday. Wyatt Earp dragged. I didn’t like the script at all. ~J ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/8 "2003-07-09T01:32:53Z")
**My Darling Clementine** ---
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/9 "2003-07-09T04:03:38Z")
Tombstone, for the reasons above. Val Kilmer’s Doc Holiday was great and no Kevin Costner. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/10 "2003-07-09T04:39:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jaade \* > [Val Kilmer, Jason Priestly, **Zane Grey** , Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott, and Bill Paxton all did a fantastic job! (bolding mine) Zane Grey was an author of western novels. He died in 1939. **Billy Zane** played the role of the actor in _Tombstone_. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/11 "2003-07-09T05:58:09Z")
**Tombstone** , hands down. It seems my hypocricy knows no bounds. I dreamt I was exploring the mysteries of the Roman Catholic Church. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/12 "2003-07-09T06:01:44Z")
One of my favorite lines from Tombstone that hasn’t been taken: “You called down the thunder? Well now you got it!” (Quoted in Kevin Smith’s Mallrats.) Tombstone is the better movie hands down. I can’t say enough about Kilmer’s performance, and all those famous Doc Holliday lines and classic moments, like where he twirls the tin cup like a gun. Bill Paxton and Sam Elliot are great as Morgan and Virgil Earp, and Michael Biehn and Powers Boothe are excellent villains. Lest I forget, Dany Delany is gorgeous as Josie Marcus. What the hell–I liked Kurt Russell in it too. Tombstone is shorter and more succinct, whereas Wyatt Earp seemed like it had lots of filler to slow it down. Tombstone is a nice tight movie with a nice romantic subplot, perfect tension-breaking funny moments, and tons of action. It also plays up the theme of loyalty between family and friends better than Wyatt Earp did, in part thanks to the great chemistry between the actors. Wyatt Earp was a good movie too, don’t get me wrong, but it simply tried to tell too much of a story and felt like it was spread too thin. Tombstone was about a very specific time in Earp’s life, and did the best job of telling the story of that time. It thought of itself as a Western first and foremost, while Wyatt Earp was trying to be a terribly important drama. Has anyone bought the Tombstone Special Edition DVD? What are all the extra features, and are they worth it? ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/13 "2003-07-09T06:07:08Z")
'Nother vote for **Tombstone**. Better-paced movie with better acting. “I have not yet begun to defile myself!” ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/14 "2003-07-09T06:11:10Z")
Well, at least there’s one good Doc line left–the one we bandied about most when drunk (hey, I was in college when it came out): “Ah got two guns…one fo’ each of ya.” Tombstone is definitely the superior movie. Kilmer was fantastic, as was Sam Elliot, in his understated way. In short, what **Lou** said. I’ve always liked Kilmer, but I never took him seriously until this movie. The man’s ability with dialect and accent is extraordinary. I’m also a fan of The Saint, for just this reason–I love to listen to him talk. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/15 "2003-07-09T06:14:37Z")
**Tombstone** , no question. I’m another person singing the praises of Val Kilmer. There are too many lines to mention, but my favorite is (I’m probably a little off) other guy: “He’s so drunk, he’s probably seeing double” Doc: “I’ve got two guns, one for each of ya.” It’s also got some great shots. An example would be the shot with the four of them heading (I think) to the showdown at the OK Coral. I’m not good with names, I might not be OK Coral, but I’m sure you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/16 "2003-07-09T06:55:56Z")
Also, my friend Matt and I constantly call people we disapprove of “huckleberries,” in honor of Doc. ---
**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/17 "2003-07-09T06:59:38Z")
Count me in with the Tombstone huckleberries for the same reasons as everyone else. I’m not sure Val Kilmer even got nominated for an oscar for that performance which is a great shame. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/18 "2003-07-09T07:10:34Z")
‘Stephen Foster. “Oh, Susannah”, “Camptown Races”. Stephen stinking Foster.’ ‘Ah, yes. Well, this happens to be a nocturne.’ ‘A which?’ ‘You know, Frederic fucking Chopin.’ ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/19 "2003-07-09T07:18:05Z")
“Oh, Johnny, you ain’t no daisy! You aint no daisy _at all_!” ---
**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127/20 "2003-07-09T07:28:10Z")
“If I was to think we weren’t friends, I don’t think I could bear it.” Kilmer goes without saying, but I loved Kurt Russell, too, especially the scene at the train station. The “I’m right behind you, Stillwell!” gets me everytime. And of course the “You called down the thunder, well, now you’ve got it!” And we can’t forget the “You tell them I’m coming, and hell’s coming with me, you hear?!” The scene at the river is awesome, too. “NO!” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tombstone-or-wyatte-earp-which-one-did-you-like-more-why/187127.md?page=2)