# Tomndebb - can I ask why I was warned in GD please? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439 "2005-02-16T22:43:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/21 "2005-02-17T07:19:18Z")
> [@Captain Amazing](#): > > Do you see the difference between, “People who rebel should be punished” and “You’re a Nazi”? Of course I do; if the exchange was exactly as posted, I would be so far out of line it wouldn’t even be funny. That’s not what happened to my mind, hence the question. **CynicalGabe** - I of course forgot that rule, and as you can see lost the argument. Rest assured it won’t happen again… :o Oh, and **Lord Ashtar** - I don’t like to think that I am ‘pitting’ **tomndebb** ; I just wanted to know why the warning and this seemed the most appropriate fora for that. I mean, crap, I never even said ‘fuck’ until just now! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/22 "2005-02-17T13:35:10Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > I did intend to draw a parallel between his suggestion that rebels be jailed / hung with the Nazis, as I apparently misunderstood his comments. I understood him to be telling me that I would be jailed and / or hung for rebelling against the government, and that it would be ‘a good riddance’ if this happened, and responded in kind. If this stepped over the line for GD, then I apologize. Jailed or hung for rebelling against the government (after losing several elections in a row, as I understood the trend of your argument). But you reacted as if I had said you should be jailed or hung for disagreeing with the President, which is entirely different. Simple misunderstanding. If I had posted that you should be jailed or hung for voting Democratic and losing, I would deserve to be warned/Pitted/banned. Voting Democratic is its own punishment. 😉 Regards, Shodan PS - I almost forgot we were in the Pit. > [@](#): > > I don’t like to think that I am ‘pitting’ tomndebb; I just wanted to know why the warning and this seemed the most appropriate fora for that. "Forum’ is the singular, you pustulant corpse-felcher. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/23 "2005-02-17T13:46:47Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > PS - I almost forgot we were in the Pit. "Forum’ is the singular, you pustulant corpse-felcher. Right back at 'cha you presidential fluff boy in the porn film of politics. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/24 "2005-02-17T13:52:32Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > OfOh, and **Lord Ashtar** - I don’t like to think that I am ‘pitting’ **tomndebb** ; I just wanted to know why the warning and this seemed the most appropriate fora for that. I mean, crap, I never even said ‘fuck’ until just now! 🙂 We have found in the past that when someone opens a thread with the intention of calling the actions of a moderator into question, it too often devolves into a flame war, and the thread would end up being moved to the Pit because of that. Rather than having half the “discussion of Moderator actions” in ATMB and the other half in the Pit depending upon intensity level, it was decided that it was easiest to gather them all in the Pit. After all, there is absolutely nothing preventing a Pit thread from being respectful, intelligent, and non-profane; the Pit merely leaves open the avenues of disrespect and profanity that some people seem compelled to fall in to when discussing Moderation actions, the god-damned pig felching goat shitters. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/25 "2005-02-17T13:58:02Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > Right back at 'cha you presidential fluff boy in the porn film of politics. I like yours better. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/26 "2005-02-17T14:23:02Z")
> [@John Corrado](#): > > the Pit merely leaves open the avenues of disrespect and profanity that some people seem compelled to fall in to when discussing Moderation actions, the god-damned pig felching goat shitters. Well if you doody-head mods were just a little more understanding of my unique and magical circumstances, you would understand why I need to publicly insult Shodan, stalking him from forum to forum, as he truly is the anti-Christ. I also feel insulted by your lack of compassion for pig felching goat shitters. I mean, how inhuman are you to not understand that they have a problem and shouldn’t be the butt of your oh-so-superior wisecracks? ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/27 "2005-02-17T14:25:05Z")
I love this place. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/28 "2005-02-17T14:36:20Z")
> [@Captain Amazing](#): > > Well, Shodan just said that anyone rebelling against the government would be committing treason, and that it would be good riddence to throw people who would do that into prison or hang them (and he’s got the law on his side there…taking up arms against the US is treason which is a crime and can be punishible by death. He didn’t even say you would rebel against the government…just that rebels should be thrown in jail or executed. Either of you read the Declaration of Independence lately? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/29 "2005-02-17T14:43:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Either of you read the Declaration of Independence lately? What exactly do you believe would have happened to George Washington, et al., had the _British_ won that war? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/30 "2005-02-17T14:45:56Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > Well if you doody-head mods were just a little more understanding of my unique and magical circumstances, you would understand why I need to publicly insult Shodan, stalking him from forum to forum, as he truly is the anti-Christ. Oh sure. Fiftyseven hundred posts, all sparkling with wit and erudtion and chock-full of irrefutable evidence that every single word I have ever spoken is true. But you sacrifice _one_ virgin… Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/31 "2005-02-17T14:52:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Either of you read the Declaration of Independence lately? I just want the record to reflect, for those nice little Secret Service men who I believe might be interested in such but definitely wouldn’t be monitoring this message board, that I am not, nor have I ever, advocated armed rebellion to the government of the United States. Yet. 🙂 **This Year’s Model** and **Elvis Lives** , I think you both know the answer. History (and law) is written by the winners. If we had lost the War of Independence, George and Ben and Tom and Alex and the all boys would have been hung, drawn, quartered, and disemboweled, if possible while still alive, then their pieces sent to the four corners of the Empire as a warning to others. Oh, and **Shodan** - you ain’t that witty. Sorry, mate… you’re just wrong in so many ways, I can’t bear to write them all down here. Too rude. Might scare children. Won’t risk the inevitable banning for making mods vomit and cry. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/32 "2005-02-17T15:05:13Z")
Of course. I was just commenting on the irony of Americans opposing the right to self-determination, and the concept of a government’s legitimacy deriving from the consent of the governed. Apparently that wasn’t obvious enough for everyone, and some of you do indeed need to read the Declaration. The Constitution is a damned good read too; I recommend it highly. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/33 "2005-02-17T15:06:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Of course. I was just commenting on the irony of Americans opposing the right to self-determination, and the concept of a government’s legitimacy deriving from the consent of the governed. Apparently that wasn’t obvious enough for everyone, and some of you do indeed need to read the Declaration. The Constitution is a damned good read too; I recommend it highly. OK, then. I misunderstood the point you were trying to make. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/34 "2005-02-17T15:28:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Either of you read the Declaration of Independence lately? Treason never prospers and I know the reason For if treason prospers none dare call it treason. 🙂 But what was being discussed in the thread was rebellion against the government of the US who were unhappy by the election results. So, in that case, it wouldn’t be self determination…it would be a minority trying to overthrow a government elected by the majority of voters. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/35 "2005-02-17T15:37:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Jailed or hung for rebelling against the government (after losing several elections in a row, as I understood the trend of your argument). > > \ > > "Forum’ is the singular, you pustulant corpse-felcher. And when you are hanged by the neck until dead, you are “hanged”, not “hung”. ::insert endowment joke here:: ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/36 "2005-02-17T15:53:10Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Oh sure. > > Fiftyseven hundred posts, all sparkling with wit and erudtion and chock-full of irrefutable evidence that every single word I have ever spoken is true. > > But you sacrifice _one_ virgin… You found a virgin? Damn. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/37 "2005-02-17T16:06:40Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You found a virgin? > > Damn. At least he said he was a virgin. With boys it’s hard to tell… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/38 "2005-02-17T16:16:27Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > At least he said he was a virgin. With boys it’s hard to tell… He claimed he wasn’t a virgin, but he had over a thousand posts on the SDMB, so I was pretty sure. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/39 "2005-02-17T16:23:49Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > He claimed he wasn’t a virgin, but he had over a thousand posts on the SDMB, so I was pretty sure. And what with the fluffing for the big show, you can bet he wasn’t a virgin anymore! ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439/40 "2005-02-17T16:27:45Z")
> [@Captain Amazing](#): > > But what was being discussed in the thread was rebellion against the government of the US who were unhappy by the election results. So, in that case, it wouldn’t be self determination…it would be a minority trying to overthrow a government elected by the majority of voters. Who said anything about overthrowing? Not me. I don’t necessarily want to live in a Red State, but wouldn’t try to force Red Staters who clearly don’t like it to live like me, either. What about setting up a separate nation from Jesusland? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-can-i-ask-why-i-was-warned-in-gd-please/290439.md?page=3)