# Tomndebb is one weaselly mother fucker… **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569 "2007-03-12T06:48:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/261 "2007-03-13T23:23:46Z")
**Badchad** , Cthulhu loves you. Of course by ‘loves you’ I mean wants to devour your soul!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/262 "2007-03-13T23:27:30Z")
**badchad** , I love you. What? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/263 "2007-03-13T23:31:05Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] **badchad** , I love you. What? 😃 [/QUOTE] "Somewhere near **Silenus** , Lord, I let her slip away / Lookin’ for that home / And I hope she finds it … " ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/264 "2007-03-13T23:40:21Z")
**badchad** , the Flying Spaghetti Monster loves you. Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? ---
**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/265 "2007-03-13T23:51:09Z")
I’m an atheist, so how to respond? Oh, I know! Badchad, no-one loves you! 😃 JOhn. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/266 "2007-03-13T23:59:53Z")
I’m not eager to see him banned, though I figure it’s pretty much inevitable at this point. He hasn’t yet addressed my question about exactly how Christians are condemning people to Hell when Hell isn’t defined in the New Testament and I’m curious how he would, if he _has the stones!_ In this particular instance, the popular imagery of Hell is derived from Dante and Milton rather than scripture, rather like basing your opinion of _Star Trek_ on fan fiction. I figure if badchad wants to see Christianity’s scripture challenged and exposed as nonsensical and self-contradictory, he should stop lazily assuming Hell is part of it. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/267 "2007-03-14T00:12:12Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] "Somewhere near **Silenus** , Lord, I let her slip away / Lookin’ for that home / And I hope she finds it … " [/QUOTE] I think it was supposed to be satyrical 😛 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/268 "2007-03-14T00:14:17Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] I think it was supposed to be satyrical 😛 [/QUOTE] Geez **Poly** , puns like that make the baby Jesus cry or at least the very young translucent one horn filly snort in disgust. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/269 "2007-03-14T01:01:40Z")
> [@jkusters](#): > > I’m an atheist, so how to respond? Oh, I know! > > Badchad, no-one loves you! Yeah, I was thinking that, but decided the FSM would be funnier. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/270 "2007-03-14T01:26:08Z")
> [@](#): > > **Liberal** : I think that’s for you to decide as an individual. Zoe stopped using the word “fundie” out of simple respect for my wishes." I stopped using the word “cunt” out of respect for hers. It’s only when the words _cunt_ or _pussy_ are used as insults that I am uncomfortable. Thanks for being a friend about it. Of course similar words describing the male anatomy are used for insults too, but not quite with the same connotations. [/hijack] > [@](#): > > **Shodan** : A stalker, a self-admitted troll, the worst kind of one-trick pony, and an obsessive jerk. And yet, still around. > > Why? Maybe this is TPTB’s way of letting us know that they have relaxed their standards and we are all free to conduct ourselves as **badchad** has without fear of being banned. (Just don’t be a sock.) Why don’t you test my theory on…hm…try **Giraffe.** See if you get banned. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/271 "2007-03-14T01:27:28Z")
Wait. One second. How do we know it is **Tom** that is a weasley mother fucker? Maybe it’s **debb**. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/272 "2007-03-14T01:37:59Z")
[QUOTE=Crotalus] To be fair, I believe that **badchad** has clearly stated that diminishing **Polycarp** ’s enjoyment of SDMB was one of his goals, not his only goal. [/QUOTE] Actually I didn’t even say that much. I just agreed that it was in “accordance” with my goals, not that it was a goal in and of itself. Anyone who argues otherwise apparently does not think my actual actions deserve banning and as such feel they need to make stuff up. And that sure sounds like jerk behavior to me. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/273 "2007-03-14T01:44:58Z")
[QUOTE=badchad] Actually I didn’t even say that much. I just agreed that it was in “accordance” with my goals . . . [/QUOTE] … :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/274 "2007-03-14T01:46:56Z")
Ok, I think I regained my faculty for speech. So, what you’re saying **badchad** , is that harassing Poly was not your goal in and of itself, but was just in agreement with your personal master plan? I see. Ok, I have two questions: 1. What are you smoking? 2. Can I have some? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/275 "2007-03-14T01:48:19Z")
Being a linguist, I am very fascinated by a number of aspects of that field. One such aspect is the study of Semantics. I am thrilled with it as a scientific discipline. What saddens me, though, is the games certain people play under the guise of semantics. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/276 "2007-03-14T01:51:18Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Are you interested in other fora here besides Great Debates and The BBQ Pit? [/quote] I mostly enjoy GD and the Pit, I like GQ also, and the other boards I usually only check occasionally. I like and read about a lot of the discussions here I just generally don’t get involved in any of the others, as A) I don’t have much spare time, and B) I don’t feel the need to respond if someone else is adequately covering the bases that I think need to be, or C) I don’t think I have an educated opinion on a given topic and thus just read to learn. I’ve thought about entering some gun control threads but as of yet haven’t, my perceived unique perspective, would be one as a class 3 weapons owner, which I haven’t heard of from anyone else yet. > [@](#): > > In other words, if religious talk were not allowed here, would you stick around? Sure, I’m interested in a lot of other threads. In fact I think this board, and this world, would be better if the religious stuff were generally assumed ignorant and no more worthy of serious discussion than searching for gold at the end of a rainbow. Cause it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/277 "2007-03-14T02:14:13Z")
[QUOTE=badchad] Sure, I’m interested in a lot of other threads. In fact I think this board, and this world, would be better if the religious stuff were generally assumed ignorant and no more worthy of serious discussion than searching for gold at the end of a rainbow. Cause it isn’t. [/QUOTE] There’s no evidence whatsoever for the first sentence. And, interestingly, the second sentence bears no relation whatsoever to the first sentence. Though it’s quite telling that despite your theoretically interest in “a lot of other threads” you cannot go even a single post without beating on (or off?) your favorite, which is to say only, subject. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/278 "2007-03-14T02:15:55Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] So, what you’re saying **badchad** , is that harassing Poly was not your goal in and of itself, but was just in agreement with your personal master plan? [/quote] Yes. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/279 "2007-03-14T02:17:16Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I’m not eager to see him banned, though I figure it’s pretty much inevitable at this point. He hasn’t yet addressed my question about exactly how Christians are condemning people to Hell when Hell isn’t defined in the New Testament and I’m curious how he would, if he _has the stones!_ [/quote] I’ve talked about this before, and argued it in depth with **DtC**. My take is that hell is definitely a concept in the NT. There are definite descriptions of torment, and words of everlasting punishment. There are also descriptions of killing the soul. I don’t think things are quite as neat as **DtC** puts it but I don’t think his ideas are not without reasonable merit. As such I have mentioned several times that hell; be it eternal torment, or temporary torment followed by a Hitler style execution is not a place a loving being would send you. It’s certainly not a place a loving being would predestine you too, as described in the NT. Any god that would throw people in hell, particularly for not believing in him, or not worshipping him is a god I’d spit on. > [@](#): > > In this particular instance, the popular imagery of Hell is derived from Dante and Milton rather than scripture, rather like basing your opinion of _Star Trek_ on fan fiction. If you’re talking about a fiery hell with suffering, that’s not true, there are numerous biblical references describing hell as such. > [@](#): > > I figure if badchad wants to see Christianity’s scripture challenged and exposed as nonsensical and self-contradictory, he should stop lazily assuming Hell is part of it. Hell is part of it… > **[Hell in Christianity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christian_beliefs)** > > In some versions of Christian theology, Hell is the place or state into which, by God's definitive judgment, unrepentant sinners pass in the general judgment, or, as some Christians believe, immediately after death as a result of a person's choice to be separated from God (particular judgment). Its character is inferred from teaching in the biblical texts, some of which, interpreted literally, have given rise to the popular idea of Hell. Some theologians see Hell as the consequence of re Differe... … and nowhere is it described as a pleasant place to be. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/280 "2007-03-14T02:22:58Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] There’s no evidence whatsoever for the first sentence. [/quote] Who cares. I don’t need to prove my interest in other topics. I was asked so I answered. BTW, **Jodi** what are your current thoughts on “free will?” You went silent after DtC and to a lesser extent I, made what I thought were some irrefutable points. You just went quite for a several weeks. I know, cause I looked for you. Did you ever change your mind? If not, why not? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569.md?page=15)