# Tomndebb is one weaselly mother fucker…

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569 "2007-03-12T06:48:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/281 "2007-03-14T02:23:54Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I mostly enjoy GD and the Pit, I like GQ also, and the other boards I usually only check occasionally. I like and read about a lot of the discussions here I just generally don’t get involved in any of the others, as A) I don’t have much spare time, and B) I don’t feel the need to respond if someone else is adequately covering the bases that I think need to be, or C) I don’t think I have an educated opinion on a given topic and thus just read to learn. I’ve thought about entering some gun control threads but as of yet haven’t, my perceived unique perspective, would be one as a class 3 weapons owner, which I haven’t heard of from anyone else yet.  
Sure, I’m interested in a lot of other threads. In fact I think this board, and this world, would be better if the religious stuff were generally assumed ignorant and no more worthy of serious discussion than searching for gold at the end of a rainbow. Cause it isn’t.  
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So would you be willing to spend what little time you have to read the sdmb in exclusively non-religious threads for a short time. A trial period of sorts - say two weeks?

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/282 "2007-03-14T02:26:28Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
Yes.  
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Actually I should amend that. I typed in a hurry. I don’t think I ever harrassed **Poly**. I just think I gave his arguments the respect they deserved, and pressed when he retreated. He did make the mistake of promicing to respond to my arguments on several occasions. As such I felt it quite fair to press him to do so.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/283 "2007-03-14T02:26:34Z")

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I just thought of something strange about your beliefs **chad**. You believe in a NT Hell of firey suffering, but hate vehemently the God that set the system up. Yet, if this system was true, your hatred for God would probably see you ending up in Hell anyway, in the system I think you’re describing.

So, I guess what I’m saying is that I hope you have a strong faith in your beliefs…

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/284 "2007-03-14T02:27:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
So would you be willing to spend what little time you have to read the sdmb in exclusively non-religious threads for a short time. A trial period of sorts - say two weeks?  
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No.

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/285 "2007-03-14T02:30:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
I just thought of something strange about your beliefs **chad**. You believe in a NT Hell of firey suffering, but hate vehemently the God that set the system up. Yet, if this system was true, your hatred for God would probably see you ending up in Hell anyway, in the system I think you’re describing.

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True.

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> So, I guess what I’m saying is that I hope you have a strong faith in your beliefs…

I don’t beleive the concept of faith has any merit. Let’s just say I am highly certain of this particular beleif.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/286 "2007-03-14T02:38:25Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
Who cares. I don’t need to prove my interest in other topics. I was asked so I answered.  
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I care, because your answer is transparently complete bullshit. People who are interested in other topics occasionally post on those other topics. You never do.

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> BTW, **Jodi** what are your current thoughts on “free will?”

Gee, **badchad** , why do you ask?

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> You went silent after DtC and to a lesser extent I, made what I thought were some irrefutable points. You just went quite for a several weeks. I know, cause I looked for you.

I’m sure you found your own thoughts completely irrefutable. But if you’re going to wait under the balcony while I’m off having a life, at least throw a rose through the window so I know you’re there, pining.

BTW, what are you current thoughts on any subject other than (a) religion, or (b) stalking those who disagree with you on religion? Oh, that’s right: You don’t have any.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/287 "2007-03-14T02:43:48Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I don’t think I ever harrassed **Poly**.  
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Yet, you did harass the man. And you call Tom a weasel?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/288 "2007-03-14T02:44:20Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
No.  
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Tell you what, dude. I post fairly often in political threads, but I’ll make a deal with you: for two weeks, you stop talking religion and I’ll stop talking politics. This includes threadjacking, so neither of us can say that we didn’t post in the verboten type of thread if we instead posted on the verboten topic.

Deal?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/289 "2007-03-14T02:46:08Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I like GQ also  
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9 GQ posts, all in 2003, 7 of which deal with Jesus, Telepathy, or Churches? Yeah, you like GQ a lot! 😉

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/290 "2007-03-14T03:00:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
9 GQ posts, all in 2003, 7 of which deal with Jesus, Telepathy, or Churches? Yeah, you like GQ a lot! 😉  
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I didn’t say I liked GQ a lot. I like it less than the Pitt and GD. And just cause I like to read it sometimes does not mean I need to post there, or does it? You guys are really reaching now.

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/291 "2007-03-14T03:06:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
I care, because your answer is transparently complete bullshit. People who are interested in other topics occasionally post on those other topics. You never do.  
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No and no. And even if you were right, so what?

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> Gee, **badchad** , why do you ask?

Because, as I recall, your entire defense to the problem of evil was to appeal to free will. Since it was pretty well demonstrated in that thread, that we don’t have free will, I wondered if you had any new thoughts on the matter.

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> BTW, what are you current thoughts on any subject other than (a) religion, or (b) stalking those who disagree with you on religion? Oh, that’s right: You don’t have any.

Be more specific. If you will answer my questions, I will be glad to answer yours.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/292 "2007-03-14T03:07:37Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I didn’t say I liked GQ a lot. I like it less than the Pitt and GD. And just cause I like to read it sometimes does not mean I need to post there, or does it? You guys are really reaching now.  
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Actually, we’re not. You claim to be interested in subjects other than religion, but you post only to religion threads. Your own behavior gives a lie to your claim to be interested in any other subject. That’s not a reach, that’s your posting history. Why the hell are you even bothering to make such a disingenuous claim as to have other interests? You obviously don’t. Seems a mightly minor point ot make yourself a liar over.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/293 "2007-03-14T03:07:50Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I didn’t say I liked GQ a lot. I like it less than the Pitt and GD. And just cause I like to read it sometimes does not mean I need to post there, or does it? You guys are really reaching now.  
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**badchad** , Karana loves you.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/294 "2007-03-14T03:07:52Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
Link? And please juxtipose my statement with the nutjobs statement I questioned. See if their the same.  
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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=26422](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=26422)

But now it’s 872.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/295 "2007-03-14T03:11:53Z")

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> **badchad** Hell is part of it…
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> [Hell in Christianity - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christian_beliefs)
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> … and nowhere is it described as a pleasant place to be.

**badchad** strikes again with his irrefutable wiki resources! How can we possibly deny their accuracy when even they say they may be wrong?

Note too that nowhere in the Bible is Fairyland described as a pleasant place to be. What will **badchad’s** white-hot logic make of this?

I hope that he goes away, gets out of his head and learns to love someone.

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/296 "2007-03-14T03:20:33Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=26422](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=26422)

But now it’s 872.  
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That’s a cite that I claimed my only goal was to rob **Polycarp** of his happiness? How about you come up with a real cite? Oh you can’t, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/297 "2007-03-14T03:26:02Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
No and no. And even if you were right, so what?  
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So you’re a tiresome one-trick pony and your answer is complete bullshit, that’s what. Did you have a more substantive response or was “so what?” the extent of it?

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> Because, as I recall, your entire defense to the problem of evil was to appeal to free will. Since it was pretty well demonstrated in that thread, that we don’t have free will, I wondered if you had any new thoughts on the matter.

And I’m supposed to respond because you’re wondering? What’s my motivation here?

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> Be more specific. If you will answer my questions, I will be glad to answer yours.

Nah. See, I don’t actually care what your opinion is on anything, so hearing it isn’t actually any incentive for me to answer your questions. As I’ve said before, I don’t think you actually care _what_ I really believe, you’re just looking for an argument. And you’re an asshole about it. To me, yet another religious debate isn’t reason enough to put up with an asshole, so you can confidently assume I will continue to decline to respond to any questions that you can’t make worth my time to answer.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/298 "2007-03-14T03:31:07Z")

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**Zoe** , if you actually looked at the wikipedia page, you’d see that there are some Biblical references. [Matthew 25:41-46](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:41-46;&version=31;)

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> **Matthew 25:41-43**  
> "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. **42** For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, **43** I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

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> **Matthew 25:46**  
> “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Maybe that eternal life is the Fairyland you asked about?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/299 "2007-03-14T03:31:32Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
No.  
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What if someone told you that you could make a choice between posting only in non-religious threads for X amount of time, never posting at the Straight Dope Message Board again - which would you choose?

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/300 "2007-03-14T03:34:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
So you’re a tiresome one-trick pony and your answer is complete bullshit, that’s what. Did you have a more substantive response or was “so what?” the extent of it?  
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Alright, prove I don’t enjoy reading about other topics.

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> And I’m supposed to respond because you’re wondering? What’s my motivation here?

Perhaps to convince an onlooker, who noticed you slunk away from the last discussion. An onlooker who might have thought that since you couldn’t answer the challenge of free will, that your answer to the problem of evil is BS too. An onlooker who might then think Jesus is full of crap and thereby not make it too heaven. But if you don’t care, you don’t care.

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> Nah. See, I don’t actually care what your opinion is on anything…

Well then, Miss Lawyer, you shouldn’t have asked.

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