# Tomndebb is one weaselly mother fucker…

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569 "2007-03-12T06:48:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/61 "2007-03-12T16:28:56Z")

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[QUOTE=samm]  
I propose that if **badchad** ’s focus was republicans instead of christians, much fewer people would be calling constantly for him to be banned.  
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I think if he specifically targeted and stalked a pair of well known Republican Posters he would have been Banned already. Let’s use \*\*Bricker \*\* and \*\*Shodan \*\* as an example. If he continually harassed them, bothered them in non-political threads and pulled all the crap he pulled on **Polycarp** , would he still be around?

Jim

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/62 "2007-03-12T16:37:41Z")

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[QUOTE=nameless]  
I propose that if **badchad** ’s focus were orangutans instead of the Maginot line, he’d be jetskiing down the Yangtze River as we speak.

Am I doing this right?  
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Yup.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/63 "2007-03-12T16:47:57Z")

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[QUOTE=nameless]  
I propose that if **badchad** ’s focus were orangutans instead of the Maginot line, he’d be jetskiing down the Yangtze River as we speak.

Am I doing this right?  
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Sorta. Except if it was orangutans, he’d be visiting somewhere that’s only been visited once, in 1960, for 20 minutes; and he’d be visiting it without a bathyscaphe, at that.

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**Author:** ![joemama24\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@joemama24\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joemama24_98)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/64 "2007-03-12T17:00:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Add me to the chorus. Why hasn’t **badchad** been banned?  
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I don’t think a ban is necessary if not violating board rules…frankly, I don’t know why people just don’t ignore him.

I’ve not been part of any of these discussions, but really **badchad** , why the open hostility to people of faith on these boards? If you have an argument, make it, but there is no reason to escalate it to personal attacks.

Take it over the the [beliefnet.com](http://beliefnet.com) forums - I think they are much more appropriate for your discourse.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/65 "2007-03-12T17:02:51Z")

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Weaselly is our king! 😃

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/66 "2007-03-12T17:14:14Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
Weaselly is our king! 😃  
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I,for one, welcome…oh never mind

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**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/67 "2007-03-12T17:14:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Mtgman]  
Does this mean you’re making **tom~** your next project **badchad**? I know you feel you achieved “victory” over **Polycarp** , have you moved on to another target?

Enjoy,  
Steven  
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An idiot achieving “victory” over Polycarp? What did this victory entail? Oh and Badchad, you are a fuckwit.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/68 "2007-03-12T17:15:40Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
It was a threat. If **badchad** insists on continuing to interrupt threads to attack other posters–even Mod type posters–he will be Warned, then given a time-out, then Banned.  
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**Badchad** is just back from suspension. As such, he should be on a very short leash. In this circumstance, I fail to see why another suspension should even be considered. If he persists in ignoring moderator warnings, or steps the slightest bit out of line, he should be gone without the any further consideration. I’m with those wondering why he hasn’t been Banned already.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/69 "2007-03-12T17:17:53Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
I know I’ve said all this before, but since others are noticing now, and since you decided to moderate me, again without my breaking any rules, I figured it was worth saying again.  
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Okay, now be the bigger man and let the subject drop. See if you can go two weeks without referring to tomndebb or letting him bait you. Wouldn’t that be an adult course of action?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/70 "2007-03-12T17:32:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Wouldn’t that be an adult course of action?  
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Only for an adult.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/71 "2007-03-12T17:38:01Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
Weaselly is our king! 😃  
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Good King Wea-sel-ly looked out…

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/72 "2007-03-12T18:05:26Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
It was a threat. If **badchad** insists on continuing to interrupt threads to attack other posters–even Mod type posters–he will be Warned, then given a time-out, then Banned.  
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He just came _back_ from a suspension. Now you propose to reinitiate the warning/suspending/banning disciplinary cycle from the beginning? **WHY?** Sweet fancy Moses, how many chances does one asshole get?

And do you honestly think you are effectively moderating when he hijacks a thread as blatantly as he did the first linked one just to snark on you _again_ and you feebly warn him, “better stop or you’ll get a time-out”? **Tom** , you know I greatly respect you, but it appears as if his hard-on for you has left you so concerned that your actions not be perceived as personally motivated, that you have allowed yourself to be rendered completely ineffective where he is concerned. In other words and to be blunt, if you don’t have the balls to ban someone who so obviously richly deserves it, please punt the matter over to the disinterested third-party mod and allow them to wield the ax. I think a review of his first posts in the linked threads, coupled with the fact that he’d just back from suspension, ought to be more than enough to do it.

The cardinal rule is “don’t be a jerk.” He’s demonstrably and repeatedly a complete jerk. Why the hell is he still here?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/73 "2007-03-12T18:09:06Z")

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Does anyone get band for trollery or jerkishness anymore? I’m thinking of starting some threads like “I hate Belgians” or “Catnip should be outlawed.”

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/74 "2007-03-12T18:18:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
Tom, I’ll just say one thing. This “Caesar’s wife” crap is getting old. Just ban **badchad** already, for crying out loud. Yeah, you’ve gotta go the extra mile to avoid the appearance of impropriety, but that extra mile was reached ages and ages ago.  
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**Tom** is turning the other cheek, but it’s just a matter of time before other mods refuse to turn theirs. It will probably be one them rather than **tom** pulling the trigger. Tolerance is an underestimated trait, and Tom has that in spades. We need many more **Toms** in this world than **badchads** , regardless of who believes (or does not believe) what.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/75 "2007-03-12T18:24:23Z")

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**Colibri** and **Jodi** , my statement was not intended to indicate a course of protracted actions. I simply went through the normal list of actions in order. You are correct that, having recently returned from a month-long suspension for having admitted to trolling **Polycarp** , a single Warning would probably be sufficient to get him Banned. Aside from his general lack of value to the board, is there a specific post or set of posts that would have garnered anyone else a Warning? If so, report them and if the Mods agree, he will be gone.

In my (general) defense against several previous comments: I cannot ban anyone. It takes the actions of multiple Moderators and a minimum of one Administrator to ban anyone other than a spammer or sock.

**badchad** ’s actions in the **GD** thread do not bode well for a lengthy stay, but when I address him in a thread, I see no reason to lower myself to his level of calumny.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/76 "2007-03-12T18:24:38Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
Good King Wea-sel-ly looked out…  
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I heard he only looked out once.

In 1960.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/77 "2007-03-12T18:31:17Z")

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I’m glad to see that **badchad** has [returned to proper form](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8334377&postcount=122), namecalling and insults.

[QUOTE=badchad]  
I don’t think I have called Jesus a cunt in a while, but this is certainly a good example of his cunt like behavior.  
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Good show, **badchad**. Good show.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/78 "2007-03-12T18:34:17Z")

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I’ll say this much for **badchad** : he really makes you appreciate the reason, tolerance, and compassion of **Der Trihs**.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/79 "2007-03-12T18:39:40Z")

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Hmmm, what can I contribute here? A bit of personal observation, perhaps.

**tomndebb** is a good mod. Level headed, articulate, takes great pains to be fair. Only complaint I have is sometimes he’s a little slow to pull the trigger.

**baddchad** , on the other hand, is a thoroughly unpleasant person. Brings nothing to the table other than 6th grade level shock value, and has no interest in debating anything…he just wants to smear his own poop on the cyberwalls on the Dope.

I vote we keep **Tom** , and punt **badchad.**

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-is-one-weaselly-mother-fucker/395569/80 "2007-03-12T18:42:38Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
Good King Wea-sel-ly looked out…  
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“Weas-ly Kings of Orient are,  
Bearing gifts, we travel afar…”

Regards,  
Shodan

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