Tomndebb is one weaselly mother fucker…

No. In the thread I posted above, I started it in great debates and went out of my way not to put any direct insults in it. The thread got shoved in the pit anyway.

Also I sometimes find it desirable to let tom know how I feel about his moderation, which I have said before and I’ll say again, I do think is biased. Said comments are not allowed in GD, and since I’m resigned to the Pit to make them, I figure I might as well make them memorable.

And another thing I like about the Pit. Every time a Christian calls me an idiot or tells a lie about me, they are sinning against their lord. I think that’s kind of neat.

Even a troll may carry a flower in his ugly hand. I have said from the beginning that I dont think he should be banned, although I agree with many other pejorative remarks thrown into the arena.

I guess my point is that I agree with your post.

Without admitting to being a troll, I really like that one. :slight_smile:

Ah. 14.

And anyway, as far as that goes, you’re at least as intellectually dishonest, if not a great deal more so. You claim to be objectively prosecuting the fight against ignorance. The personal and vindictive nature with which you pursue this campaign makes it very clear that this is bullshit. I think if you were to honestly examine your own motivations with something even approaching honesty and maturity, you’d find, perhaps, that your bizarre hatred of such people as Polycarp and tomndebb is due to something like envy. You’re envious of the fact that they live in an ordered world, while yours–and mine–is a universe in chaos. Or, say you hate your dad, and the fact that Poly and tom seem to have adopted a comfortable father replacement in their God (my personal theory for the impetus behind most religion) just rankles you no end, because fathers are evil. Whatever; obviously I’m speculating wildly.

But the childishly nasty way you have stalked and tormented Poly and tom make it extremely clear to me that you have a great deal of self examination owing.

I just don’t see how one can be “tormented” on an anonymous message board. And this doesn’t just apply to this particular situation. If some unknown person across the internet void bothers you that much, perhaps you should not post in the Pit.

This shit is entertainment to me. If it bothered me that much I wouldn’t hang out here. That’s like the way some people post very personal shit about their lives here, and then bitch because they get ragged on.

I don’t fucking care. I mean I care in a general “Well, it’s fucked up that some people have problems” sense, but other than that, I don’t give a shit. Now, people here who choose to meet IRL and still talk about their bullshit on the board. and whine about it, that is stupid.

Keep your business to yourself.

This is interesting, because not only did Meatros deconvert, he also disappeared. Are you interested in taking the credit for that also?

And I mean the general “you” not you lissener

Are you saying that badchad is responsible for Meatros “disappearing” from the board? A bit melodramatic are we? Did BC do some kind of atheist bad mojo to Meatros?

Doesn’t seem any less speculative to say that maybe he left the board because of discouragement than it does to say that he gave up his faith because of discouragement.

Discouragement of what? Are people so fucking weak a fucking message board influences their life? If Meatros suffered a lack of faith, I seriously doubt it was solely because of posts by badchad

If it was, then he didn’t have any faith to begin with. I reiterate once again, boards like the Dope are for entertainment, people.

“reiterate once again” heh :smack:

Well, that’s kind of my point, only somewhat from the other angle.

I’ll give you that. I guess I don’t give as much of a shit about what people post here than others do. Don’t mean that in a bad way really.

That only works when there is diligent supervision over trolls by the mods. Let’s say someone signs up this morning and starts pasting saved lists about his obsession all over the place. We might respond by reporting his posts. A few people will feed him, and others will post several DNFTT messags. By the end of the day, his account will almost surely be banned, his posts deleted, and his memory erased.

Badchad, on the other hand, has been pasting saved lists about his obsession for years now. He doesn’t defend them, he just pastes them. When you refute each item in them, he either ignores you or responds by pasting more. Note that his response to my recent refutation was to say that Jesus is a cunt and I am a nutjob. Whatever truth value that statement might hold, it certainly is not a defense of his pasted list.

He also is a liar, as I proved earlier, and though he is representing himself to you as fighting a noble cause against liberal Christianity — you know, the tolerant Christians who are accepting of gays and minorities — he has in fact been battling only one: Poly. In the past, he has said that he targets Poly because Poly is somehow symbolic of, or represents, the rest of us. Now he is saying that he targets liberal Christianity in general, which is a lie.

But let us, for the sake of argument, stipulate that indeed he does fight against liberal Christianity. Surely, it gives one pause to wonder why. Why fight the Christians who are not bigots, and who believe that gays and other minorities ought to be church leaders and fully accepted in society? He will tell you some bizarre tale about how we are hypocrites for loving Jesus and loving gays at the same time.

If he is being honest about that — and we’ve ignored several of his lies to get to this point — then his gripe is against hypocrisy. But if that is the case, then why has he not attacked the hypocrisy of, say, the Bush administration? If his concern is hypocrisy, then he should be attacking the whole staff except for Tom because if Tom is showing favoritism, it is because he is Christian. It is the rest of the staff who are hypocrites if they are allowing Tom to do that.

In point of fact, he attacks one and only one alleged hypocrisy: that of liberal Christians; and within that subset, he actively pursues one and only one person: Polycarp. After many years of witnessing all this, I’ve finally put together a picture that seems reasonable to me, and it goes like this…

Badchad is not an atheist at all. He hates the liberal Christian God. Atheists do not hate God. They do not believe in God — a prerequisite to hating Him. He is, in fact, a conservative Christian, possibly a fundamentalist because all his pasted lists use the King James version of the Bible, popular among that group. He is using atheism as a cover because he knows that as a fundamentalist Christian, his behavior would long ago have been shut down. If he is an atheist, then he is the worst defender of atheism you have ever had the misfortune of having on your side.

And finally, he is a bigot. He is bothered by the liberal Christian acceptance of gays and minorites. He believes that we have besmirched the Fred Phelps Jesus that he himself adores. The only reason to target Poly, who is just as accepting of atheists as he is of gays, and to drive Poly away from posting, which is what Badchad gloats that he has done, is to silence one of the board’s greatest champions of rights and tolerance for gays and minorites.

So there you have it. Badchad is a fundamentalist Christian bigot who is himself a liar and a hypocrite, operating in the guise of a half-hearted atheist (who never participats in, say, creationism threads), intent on shutting down the board’s greatest facilitator between believers and non-believers and its greatest champoin of gay rights and the rights of minorities. It is with acceptance of that premise that everything about him makes sense.

Polycarp is surely a better man than to be “driven” away from posting by badchad. If one is “driven” away from posting on a message board, perhaps one should not post in the first place.

Get real Lib, Poly is a big boy.

I’m afraid you’re not keeping up, Klaatu. :wink:

Poly himself said: “Whatever else he [Badchad] may have accomplished in this world, he has made a place I derived great pleasure in repartee from for over six years into a place I tend not to spend much time in. I hope that accords with his goals in life.”

See post number 235 in this thread.

I get the impression you two know each other IRL, or have talked on the phone, whatever, I don’t care, but this tag team righteous indignation is getting old.

I remember that quote well, and that doesn’t equate with your saying Poly has been “driven” away.

Driven away is not the same as “Well, I am a bit bummed and I feel there is too much bullshit I don’t want do deal with right now”

I won’t engage you further on this, but this shit is bullshit. I respect Poly, but he is not immune to questions about his beliefs, which he is quite outspoken about. Granted, badchad can be an asshole, but IMO he has asked legitimate questions which deserve discourse.

I truly think that Poly and tom and even Monty are using the “chad is an asshole” excuse to avoid discourse on some religious questions that are clearly uncomfortable for them to attempt to answer, as it would undermine their faith. Let’s be real here.

If Poly and tom weren’t considered highly respected members, this wouldn’t be an issue. I feel they are getting a pass for that very reason, and am not comfortable with that.