# tomndebb, Scalia is an orginialist. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581 "2011-01-06T04:04:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pierrot\_Le\_Fou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f475e1/32.png) [@Pierrot\_Le\_Fou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pierrot_Le_Fou)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/1 "2011-01-06T04:04:43Z")
> [@dumbass](#): > > First: as Scalia notes, he is a textualist, not an originalist, so you begin with an error. Scalia is an originalist and a textualist. You should try reading Scalia’s _A Matter of Interpretation_. If that book is too difficult for you, Scalia makes his position very clear in this quote: > [@Scalia](#): > > I am a textualist. I am an originalist. I await your retraction and apology. [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90011526](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90011526) > **[Questions for Originalists (specially Bricker\*)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591873)** > > assuming Bricker is an originalist. Justice Scalia’s definition of originalism: Basically, the Constitution means what it was thought to mean when it was passed. I two questions: Do you believe that states can run racially segregated public... edit - orginialist = originalist ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/2 "2011-01-06T04:09:41Z")
He’s a motherfuckin’ originalist and a cocksuckin’ textualist, you fuckin’ low-down, pissed-up scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/3 "2011-01-06T04:11:06Z")
> [@Pierrot\_Le\_Fou](#): > > Scalia is an originalist and a textualist. You should try reading Scalia’s _A Matter of Interpretation_. > > If that book is too difficult for you, Scalia makes his position very clear in this quote: > > I await your retraction and apology. > > [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90011526](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90011526) > > [Questions for Originalists (specially Bricker\*) - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591873) > > edit - orginialist = originalist > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Scali** a > I am a textualist. I am an originalist. And I am the walrus, what sense did your post make??? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/4 "2011-01-06T04:11:27Z")
I killed Jimmy Hoffa. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/5 "2011-01-06T04:25:52Z")
Thanks for finally making a topic in the pit. Now I can tell you what a fuckin’ douchebag I think you are and have been since you started posting. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/6 "2011-01-06T04:40:20Z")
FinnAgain didn’t kill Hoffa. I did. Also, Scalia, the Zombies, JAWS from the 007 films, stinky, and that castle guy. Yeah, like the last jet over your house was only cargo. We know, shitwads. We’re on it. Shut up and cope, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/7 "2011-01-06T04:43:29Z")
I am Spartacus! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/8 "2011-01-06T04:43:54Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Thanks for finally making a topic in the pit. Now I can tell you what a fuckin’ douchebag I think you are and have been since you started posting. Dude, he’s a troll. If you didn’t see it before, his thread about outlawing smoking in the streets was about as subtle as making an airhorn that blasts TROOOOOOOO-oooooooooooo-LLLLLLLLL. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/9 "2011-01-06T04:46:02Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I killed Jimmy Hoffa. > [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > FinnAgain didn’t kill Hoffa. I did. Yeah, well I _am_ Jimmy Hoffa, and you bastids ain’t never gonna catch me! ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/10 "2011-01-06T05:03:36Z")
No, I’m Hoffa. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/11 "2011-01-06T05:12:26Z")
I’m Hoffer than you are. In fact, I’m the Hoffest one here. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/12 "2011-01-06T05:21:51Z")
Scalia is a politician and his opinions are tailored to his conservative beliefs. He can’t die soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/13 "2011-01-06T05:48:27Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Dude, he’s a troll. If you didn’t see it before, his thread about outlawing smoking in the streets was about as subtle as making an airhorn that blasts TROOOOOOOO-oooooooooooo-LLLLLLLLL. Oh, I knew/figured. I just thought “fuckin’ douchebag” sounded more cutting. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/14 "2011-01-06T06:31:53Z")
> [@Pierrot\_Le\_Fou](#): > > If that book is too difficult for you, Scalia makes his position very clear in this quote: I think you might be taking that quote out of context… [QUOTE=Justice Scalia] “You will never hear me refer to original intent, because as I say I am first of all a textualist, and secondly an originalist. If you are a textualist, you don’t care about the intent, and I don’t care if the framers of the Constitution had some secret meaning in mind when they adopted its words.” [/QUOTE] Now, the reason I don’t believe in textualism is that its adherents often stray into originalism, and deliberately imagine ambiguities in text where none exist, but Nino is, without a doubt, a textualist. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/15 "2011-01-06T13:30:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m Hoffer than you are. In fact, I’m the Hoffest one here. [This guy](http://tinyurl.com/yz5d6e7) disagrees. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/16 "2011-01-06T13:43:46Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I am Spartacus! Funny you should say that because I was all **I am Spartacus** but the at the last moment I thought maybe I’m not. And as it turns out **I am not Spartacus** ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/17 "2011-01-06T14:34:35Z")
There seems to be something about newbies with French usernames. Not good. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/18 "2011-01-06T14:34:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m Hoffer than you are. In fact, I’m the Hoffest one here. I’m Hoffa and so’s my wife. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/19 "2011-01-06T14:49:15Z")
> [@Pierrot\_Le\_Fou](#): > > I await your retraction and apology. I wouldn’t hold my breath. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581/20 "2011-01-06T15:19:41Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I wouldn’t hold my breath. > > Regards, > Shodan I wish you hadn’t said that. He was just turning all purple. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-scalia-is-an-orginialist/566581.md?page=2)