# tomndebb, why the animosity? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 27, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208 "2011-11-27T02:53:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/41 "2011-11-28T23:33:30Z")
This is a point I made to **Dio** and he never got it. _There is a point beyond which you stop defending yourself._ When people are intent on discovering evil in your every word, intent on casting you as Satan, intend on intentionally distorting your words… You stop interacting with them. Because there is nothing further to be gained. There are only things to be lost. So stop responding, stop defending yourself, stop being angry over it. Leave it lie and move on with your life. Because seriously, NOTHING HERE is worth it. It’s just a message board, with a bunch of total strangers that could be robots or 5 year old Chinese kids for all you know. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/42 "2011-11-28T23:34:42Z")
I myself am a 3 year old Alsatian in Des Moine, and not the 49 year old man from Minneapolis that I claim to be. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/43 "2011-11-29T00:36:16Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > When people are intent on discovering evil in your every word, intent on casting you as Satan, intend on intentionally distorting your words… You stop interacting with them. Let me add a caveat to this; “Whether they are, or you just percieve them to be” Because a fair amount of time, we’re just screwing ourselves over with our words and it isn’t evil intent on the other person’s side. Which is where I think this situation is sitting. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/44 "2011-11-29T03:08:55Z")
I think I’d be pissed too if you kept PM’ing me about a non-warning with demands for point by point interpretations of a bunch of non-sense. It’s a message board. If one of the other poster’s is being mean to you, just ignore them. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/45 "2011-11-29T03:12:16Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I myself am a 3 year old Alsatian in Des Moine, and not the 49 year old man from Minneapolis that I claim to be. You are a German Shepherd? 😃 **Peter Morris** , you are being hyper-sensitive. Get over yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/46 "2011-11-29T03:12:42Z")
Can I be a moderator so I can also develop an irrational compulsion to persecute the OP? ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/47 "2011-11-29T03:20:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can I be a moderator so I can also develop an irrational compulsion to persecute the OP? No. Unfortunately the irrational compulsion is a prerequisite for the position. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/48 "2011-11-29T07:48:36Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > In the first place, I DID clarify my statement, he just kept twisting it. Every time I pointed out that he had misstated my o0pinions, he just twisted them even more. > > In the second place, the rules of the SDMB demand that I go running to the playground monitor. If I deal with the matter myself, the playground monitor comes after me. No they don’t. We have a Pit. And while I found ibn’s constant and apparently willful misunderstanding of your point annoying, I’m unaware of that being against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/49 "2011-11-29T08:56:44Z")
Let it go, Peter. You didn’t get a warning, despite possibly warranting one (along with others). Ibn didn’t accuse you of loving Nazis. He accused you of having a stupid argument, and tried to get you to realize that if you really believed that argument, it would imply you loved Nazis. You were left with the logical choice of either admitting you loved Nazis or admitting your argument was flawed. I have no love for the occasional misconduct of mods here, but in this case I have to side with them. I also agree with what was probably your intended argument. But what you actually wrote was easily dismantled by logic and rather than throwing a hissy fit you should have just admitted that you wrote a poorly formed argument initially and amended it to clarify your intentions. Let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/50 "2011-11-29T12:58:39Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can I be a moderator so I can also develop an irrational compulsion to persecute the OP? If you do become a moderator, will you give him a warning? You might, right? I mean, if suitable bribes and burnt offerings and tribute was given…it’s not out of the question, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/51 "2011-11-29T13:10:50Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > In the second place, the rules of the SDMB demand that I go running to the playground monitor. If I deal with the matter myself, the playground monitor comes after me. This is only true if tomndebb puts on his official mod hat and declares _ **I am the fucking playground monitor**._ (I think he must do that hopping on one foot while balancing a porcupine on the end of his nose.) (Porcupines have very small noses and are very difficult to balance.) (The shoes must be green velour.) (Jackboots come in green velour, but only from a small factory in Velur.) (The Frogurt, of course, is also cursed.) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/52 "2011-11-29T14:50:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can I be a moderator so I can also develop an irrational compulsion to persecute the OP? Possibly, but it has to be irrational. E.g., “I _will not rest_ until **Peter Morris** pays for this marshmallow beanbag regatta!” ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/53 "2011-11-29T15:37:32Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > First of all, he accused me of not supporting the troops that fought against Hitler. > > I pointed out that in fact I do support them. > > He accused me of lying, claiming that I don’t really support them, but that I am only pretending to. **Vinyl Turnip** and **jackdivinci** have both accurately described the situation. **Ibn Warraq** caught you in a logical inconsistency of a poorly framed argument, and he pointed out the ramifications of that position as stated. It’s a gotcha, that’s all it is. With regards to supporting or not supporting the troops that fought the NAZIs, you made statements in that thread to the effect that all soldiers are bad, they only protect us against other soldiers. Even if true that soldiers only protect us against other soldiers, that is not necessarily a bad thing. You don’t get a vote on whether there are other bad soldiers attacking us, only if there are soldiers defending us. Your vote is to not have defenders. He pointed out we had soldiers fighting the NAZIs, and they were not “defending” us on US soil, so they must be bad by your premise. Either your premise is flawed or you don’t support the troops that fought the NAZIs. Notice that “Either”. That “Either” is critical. It should focus you on what you need to be looking at. > [@](#): > > Would you agree, Irishman, that the phrase "immense hypocrisy " is both a personal insult, and the equivalent of saying that I’m lying? No, on both counts. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/54 "2011-11-29T15:58:53Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > … the rules of the SDMB demand that I go running to the playground monitor. “Demand”? I’ve read the rules… somehow I missed that one. [Regardless, I offer you this in earnest.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoM57Z8dRUY) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208/55 "2011-11-29T17:53:22Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > (I think he must do that hopping on one foot while balancing a porcupine on the end of his nose.) > > (Porcupines have very small noses and are very difficult to balance.) But not difficult for **tomndebb** , seeing as he has a large nose and the spines serve as an anchor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebb-why-the-animosity/604208.md?page=2)