# tomndebb's charges are self-referential **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152 "2012-03-29T13:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/21 "2012-03-29T17:15:22Z")
> [@ch4rl3s](#): > > Fine, you choose ignorance. But coming into a thread to boast of your ignorance and comment that you have no interest in anything people are saying in the thread? Aside from being against the premise of the Straight Dope (Fighting Ignorance since 1973,) I would consider to be against the rules. I didn’t “choose ignorance”. Instead, I came to realize that you were impervious to anything I had to say, and so chose to say “fuck it. I’m not interested in discussing anything with this fool.” The amusing thing is that you keep reviving that thread, and everyone keeps ignoring you. Why? Because they saw what I saw. An ignorant little toad who had nothing interesting to say but will drone on endlessly, regardless. Have fun with your pit thread… ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/22 "2012-03-29T18:10:06Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Tom is a Strange Loop! Better than a Strange Froot Loop, eh? > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Shoot me, but I think he’s kind of right. I don’t really understand why **tnd** was participating in the thread considering that he kept telling outsiders they shouldn’t bother. I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t bother, either, but this thread looks like it could be fun. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/23 "2012-03-29T18:57:33Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Who’s christian and who’s not. Who’s a good American and who’s not. It’s just more of the old “no true Scotsman”. List me as “don’t give a shit”. “don’t give a shit” is just a euphemism for saying you choose to remain ignorant of ch4rles’s opinions of Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/24 "2012-03-29T19:40:03Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Don’t you hate when they cling to the side of the bowl on the way down? Then you have to flush a bunch more times just to clear the remnants. That’s some funny shit, right there. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/25 "2012-03-29T20:05:17Z")
[Moderating] I’m leaving this open for discussion of **tom** as a poster, but I want to remind everyone that any comments on **tom** ’s behavior as a mod goes in ATMB, and not here. If this distinction isn’t maintained, I will close this thread. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/26 "2012-03-29T22:54:44Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > **tomndebb’s charges are self-referential** > > Isn’t this just a fancy way of saying “I know you are but what am I?” To which **tomndebb** should respond, “I have long been likened to a tropical plant based elastic polymer, whereas you, good sir, exhibit the qualities of an adhesive substance made from corn starch and the hooves of deceased equines. Therefore, I put it to you thusly: Whatever verbal slings and arrows you may cast upon me with such furious anger as you have shown here will return to you after the most briefest of contacts and adhere upon your person” ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/27 "2012-03-30T00:23:08Z")
Who the hell is **Chfourrlthrees** anyway? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/28 "2012-03-30T00:44:30Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > God drones! Dropping psalms on innocent citizens! Christ! ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/29 "2012-03-30T03:50:48Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Christ! No, he drops epistles. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/30 "2012-03-30T05:06:31Z")
I thought it was the apostles who dropped the epistles? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/31 "2012-03-30T05:26:36Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > No, he drops epistles. “I’ll be right back; I have to go drop a massive epistle.” ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/32 "2012-03-30T06:13:38Z")
For what it’s worth, Tom is generally a highly intelligent poster with good reasoning and solid analytical skills. It’s a testament to his intellect, in fact, that the only real way to be certain that he’s wrong is see if he disagrees with me. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/33 "2012-03-30T06:24:12Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > … the only real way to be certain that he’s wrong is see if he disagrees with me. I think someone just dropped a massive epistle. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/34 "2012-03-30T16:01:09Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Tom is a Strange Loop! No, he’s meta! ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/35 "2012-03-30T16:25:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Don’t you hate when they cling to the side of the bowl on the way down? That’s what toilet brushes are for. Far more annoying is when the bristles recoil and fling shitty water into one’s face. For some reason, it’s twice as annoying when it’s someone else’s shit that they didn’t bother to brush off. Also annoying is the fact that the brushes are always wet because the only method anyone has ever come up with to clean them is flushing the toilet with the brush in it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/36 "2012-04-05T09:34:29Z")
No swear words in an OP about self-referencing, a topic which practically cries out for repeated profanity? How can anyone think to do this without recursing? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/37 "2012-04-05T14:52:16Z")
“Froot”? (Post #22) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/38 "2012-04-05T15:33:31Z")
Tomndebb once gave me a mod instruction that only said “Disregard this mod instruction.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/39 "2012-04-05T15:41:23Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > “Froot”? (Post #22) Appropriate [when used in conjunction with “Loops”.](http://www.foodliabilitylaw.com/uploads/image/IMG00052-20100428-1603.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152/40 "2012-04-05T15:58:23Z")
Maybe tomndebb = Tom And Debb? If so, that explains why he refers to himself. Its actually her that refers to him, who’s not herself [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tomndebbs-charges-are-self-referential/617152.md?page=1)