# Tonights special: apologist apoplexy du rjung **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068 "2006-05-17T03:27:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/281 "2006-05-28T17:05:57Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] How’s that work for you? [/QUOTE] Works fine, yet leaves me wondering why you _do_ care enough to belittle **Scylla** ’s claims. I can think of several possibilities, but none of them do much to flatter you. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/282 "2006-05-28T17:33:48Z")
**Squink** , Scylla’s blimp thread made it onto a joke mailing list, that’s why it was on a bunch of little personal web pages. How does that in anyway support his claim of classroom lectures, radio play and movie offers? > [@](#): > > Okay, so I got something funny in an email the other day, from a nationwide joke mailinglist. They list moderator didn’t know who wrote it, and hadn’t bothered to find out, so I did some research and dug up the original. > [snip] > I felt a trace of guilt for not emailing the author and asking - but like I said, the damage has been done, and I actually made the effort to find out who’s it was. It’s not like I’m taking credit here for work that isn’t mine. Argh. I feel unjustly prosecuted. > > So I wrote Scylla and asked. He says that " I would prefer not to have it distributed or reproduced in its entirety by blogs or commercial sites." > > Which is fair. I’ve deleted the offending story, and I can only wish the author the best of luck in instructing these thousands of people that he’d really prefer that they didn’t forward the story any more, thanks. from [Insufferably Delightful](http://users.wpi.edu/~elisab/MT/archives/000238.html) But I don’t find Scylla’s claims all that impossible. Can’t imagine which of his short stories could be made into a full movie but there are plenty of movies that shouldn’t get made but do. His stuff is generally more amusing than _Weekend at Bernie’s_ ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/283 "2006-05-28T17:42:32Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Works fine, yet leaves me wondering why you _do_ care enough to belittle **Scylla** ’s claims. I can think of several possibilities, but none of them do much to flatter you. [/QUOTE] I’m not the one making claims that others have a vendetta against me because they are jealous. That much should be clear to even the lamest of observers. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/284 "2006-05-28T17:44:47Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] **Squink** , Scylla’s blimp thread made it onto a joke mailing list… [/QUOTE] IIRC, it also made it into a Brit(?) magazine. Maybe his claims _are_ a little over the top, but not so over the top as dismissing them out of hand. Even _Weekend at Bernies_ had its moments. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/285 "2006-05-28T19:18:24Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] **BULLSHIT**. You’re just lying because you’re jealous of **Scylla**. [/QUOTE] Self-justifying piss fight, with circular logic. Neato. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/286 "2006-05-28T19:20:31Z")
[QUOTE=FinnAgain] Neato. [/QUOTE] I used **Keen** myself! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/287 "2006-05-28T19:25:56Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] **Squink** , … Can’t imagine which of his short stories could be made into a full movie but there are plenty of movies that shouldn’t get made but do. His stuff is generally more amusing than _Weekend at Bernie’s_ [/QUOTE] Evil Nazi Groundhog Day, part II? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/288 "2006-05-28T21:59:08Z")
I got published in the April '03 issue of _Aerostat_. Plagiarism has been an ongoing issue. I had a story read (or acted out) on a radio station. They’re supposed to send me an MP3. A teacher sought and gave permission to copy a story, distribute it and use it in class. A student filmmaker wanted to make a short film. I can prove all these things. Have the magazine, original emails, etc etc. Would be happy to prove it, if anybody claiming “bullshit” wants to make a bet for $1,000 or more, preescrowed. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/289 "2006-05-28T22:02:23Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] I got published in the April '03 issue of _Aerostat_. Plagiarism has been an ongoing issue. I had a story read (or acted out) on a radio station. They’re supposed to send me an MP3. A teacher sought and gave permission to copy a story, distribute it and use it in class. A student filmmaker wanted to make a short film. [/QUOTE] So what do you want-a medal? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/290 "2006-05-28T22:52:17Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] So what do you want-a medal? [/QUOTE] Naw. The communal blowjob he’s been working so hard for. I mean don’t you think we at least own him that much for being able to trade bytes in cyberspace with such a famous poster? Then again we could all get together and make him that MP-3 he seems to long for. Any thoughts for the title? How does “I Love To Toot My Own Horn” or “How To Become Extremely Limber” sound? ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/291 "2006-05-28T23:06:47Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] I got published in the April '03 issue of _Aerostat_. Plagiarism has been an ongoing issue. I had a story read (or acted out) on a radio station. They’re supposed to send me an MP3. A teacher sought and gave permission to copy a story, distribute it and use it in class. A student filmmaker wanted to make a short film. I can prove all these things. Have the magazine, original emails, etc etc. Would be happy to prove it, if anybody claiming “bullshit” wants to make a bet for $1,000 or more, preescrowed. [/QUOTE] I have no dog in this fight, but if all these were from SDMB posts, could you link to them? I’m just curious as to what sort of message board posts attract that sort of attention. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/292 "2006-05-28T23:58:33Z")
**Scylla** , you do know it’s lame to brag about a film student asking to use your story for a movie? Also, aerostat is a fucking blimp/hot air balloon magazine. They are probably pretty fucking desperate for space filler, let alone actually amusing stories about blimps. The other stuff (radio, teacher) just sounds like you are an active and popular member of your little community. That’s nice and all the power to you, but you really should watch when it goes to your head. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/293 "2006-05-29T00:25:15Z")
Damn **Scylla**. That’s some list. I know I’m simply green with envy. You really are a top notch jackass. I’m surprised that you can get out of bed what with that swelled head weighing you down. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/294 "2006-05-29T00:40:34Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] I’m surprised that you can get out of bed what with that swelled head weighing you down. [/QUOTE] Surprisingly enough, it takes a blimp. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/295 "2006-05-29T01:30:49Z")
When I was 14, my mother said I was the best dungeonmistress on the block. And you can believe her - she was a 12 level Paladin, and just like Vulcans, those guys don’t lie. Truly my whole life had been converging on that point. Now I see that it was all for naught. Compared to the Gods that walk these venerable and sacred halls, I am nothing but dirt between the cracks of the marble floors of Olympus. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/296 "2006-05-29T03:55:11Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] So what do you want-a medal? [/QUOTE] No. $1,000. waterj2 > [@](#): > > have no dog in this fight, but if all these were from SDMB posts, could you link to them? I’m just curious as to what sort of message board posts attract that sort of attention. Sure. E,ail me, I’ll send you links. Carnalk: > [@](#): > > Scylla, you do know it’s lame to brag about a film student asking to use your story for a movie? Seemed pretty cool to me. > [@](#): > > Also, aerostat is a fucking blimp/hot air balloon magazine. They are probably pretty fucking desperate for space filler, let alone actually amusing stories about blimps. I’ll have you know that Aerostat is one of the top two blimp magazines in the **world.** Still seems pretty cool to have them want my shit. > [@](#): > > The other stuff (radio, teacher) just sounds like you are an active and popular member of your little community. I have no relation to these people, so I don’t see how they fit into my “little community” > [@](#): > > you really should watch when it goes to your head. Mmmm. Thanks. Harborwolf: > [@](#): > > You really are a top notch jackass. I’m surprised that you can get out of bed what with that swelled head weighing you down. Say what you want. The beauty of it is that I’ve got something to point to for my time here. What do you have to show for yours? Una Person: > [@](#): > > Compared to the Gods that walk these venerable and sacred halls, I am nothing but dirt between the cracks of the marble floors of Olympus. Yet hardly am I an Ozymondias. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/297 "2006-05-29T04:13:46Z")
I’d much rather see some more of your wonderful blimp stories, but clearly you can generate a lot of attention with clever writing about how **rjung** uses “apologist” a lot. There might even be a film student who wants to make a movie about it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/298 "2006-05-29T04:25:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Scylla: > Seemed pretty cool to me. Yeah, we can tell. BTW, do you have a link to the Ukele Ike comment on your parenting that apparently set off this fatwa? The only one I could find was [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=2379380&#post2379380): > [@](#): > > **Scylla** , I shall never cease to be amazed at the amount of free time you seem to have on your hands. > > Why aren’t you reading to your kid? That can’t be it…can it? Also, “Ozymandias”. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/299 "2006-05-29T10:58:12Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] Harborwolf: Say what you want. The beauty of it is that I’ve got something to point to for my time here. What do you have to show for yours? [/QUOTE] I find myself to be better informed than I was and my political views have become more moderate than they were. Also, Aesiron enjoys my posts in comic book threads and I’m still a charter member. I know. Those are such small things. ☹ I’ll try to do better. I just hadn’t realized that I should be using this board to gratify my ego. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/300 "2006-05-29T13:42:43Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] I know. Those are such small things. ☹ I’ll try to do better. I just hadn’t realized that I should be using this board to gratify my ego. [/QUOTE] “Well, actually, it’s a little more than just a hobby. Reader’s Digest is considering publishing two of my jokes.” - Lt. Steve, _Good Morning, Vietnam_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068.md?page=16)