# Tonights special: apologist apoplexy du rjung **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068 "2006-05-17T03:27:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/61 "2006-05-17T19:59:22Z")
[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness] Actually, I’m a little with **Scylla** on this one. When “apologist” is typed with a sneer, it irritates me. Danile [/QUOTE] Odd. I seem to remember starting a pit thread about using words incorrectly, and you were jumping all over me about how language changes and new shades of meaning attach themselves to certain words. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/62 "2006-05-17T20:06:31Z")
[QUOTE=UncleBeer] Scylla “chummed” the lefties, that’s how. [/QUOTE] Is \*that \* what it’s called, now? Not the T-word? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/63 "2006-05-17T20:28:18Z")
At least he didn’t say he “took us to the submarine races.” ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/64 "2006-05-17T21:09:26Z")
[QUOTE=Enginerd] **ottO**? [/QUOTE] tOto. Now, how about some words that are way cooler than “one trick pony”? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/65 "2006-05-17T21:37:21Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] I have a nitpick. I think it’s spelled “cromnulent.” It really bother me when I see “cromulent.” -arise, so [/QUOTE] You sure you’re not thinking of “somnolent”? :dubious: ~ DedyTedydFryded ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/66 "2006-05-17T21:59:44Z")
[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike] But could I second your idea about searching for the “friend xxx” people? And maybe going after them with a pole-axe? [/QUOTE] Maybe **Hamlet** could lend you his sleaded pole-ax. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/67 "2006-05-17T23:07:09Z")
[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness] Actually, I’m a little with **Scylla** on this one. When “apologist” is typed with a sneer, it irritates me. It also irritates me when someone divides the world along partisan lines, refusing to recognize any middle ground. **rjung** does both sometimes, I think. [/QUOTE] He may very well do that, but I perused a few links starting from the bottom of the list, and the people he called apologists were **Mr. Moto** and **Stephe96** , neither of which squat anywhere near the middle of the ground very often. The others were directed at hypothetical apologists, etc. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/68 "2006-05-17T23:15:50Z")
[QUOTE=UncleBeer] Scylla “chummed” the lefties, that’s how. [/QUOTE] note, please for the record, that he hasn’t been back to defend his OP. If nothing at all else, I think it’s a cheap shot to call out another poster and then leave for a while. If you weren’t gonna have an ability to post again for a while, wait to post the thread- especially in this sort of case where it’s an agregate total of aggrivation, vs. a specific egregious post. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/69 "2006-05-17T23:46:09Z")
My specific problem with rjung isn’t his use of ‘apologist’, as in ‘Bush apologist’. Sure, its annoying after the 100th time, but what the hell…the guy IS a one trick pony after all and I doubt he’d deny it himself.No, MY problems is the fact that the use of ‘Bush apologist’ seems to be his default setting for ‘you disagree with me you evil bastard!’. Usually delivered in a one or two line fact free drive by posting and used as a dig to the poster he is ‘debating’ with to try and paint said poster with rjungs famous broad brush. I think THAT is what annoys the OP…though he hasn’t been back to respond as yet so maybe I’m off base. Its certainly what bakes MY noodle about rjung though. 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/70 "2006-05-18T00:04:45Z")
[QUOTE=wring] note, please for the record, that he hasn’t been back to defend his OP. If nothing at all else, I think it’s a cheap shot to call out another poster and then leave for a while. If you weren’t gonna have an ability to post again for a while, wait to post the thread- especially in this sort of case where it’s an agregate total of aggrivation, vs. a specific egregious post. [/QUOTE] My God, it’s been 20 hours, woman! On the first page people are like “My God, get out some you have too much time on your hands,” and it took me like five minutes to cut and paste the links from search. Now I leave for 20 hours and you’re mad that I’m not here. Admit it, you just want me, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/71 "2006-05-18T00:04:56Z")
[QUOTE=xtisme] My specific problem with rjung isn’t his use of ‘apologist’, as in ‘Bush apologist’. Sure, its annoying after the 100th time, but what the hell…the guy IS a one trick pony after all and I doubt he’d deny it himself. [/QUOTE] No, he does deny it. I called him that once and he denied it vigorously. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/72 "2006-05-18T00:15:02Z")
Well, denile is not just a river in Northern Africa I suppose… 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/73 "2006-05-18T00:15:41Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Boy Scylla, I thought your prose was sophmoric and pedantic, but your criticism is worse. Lame pitting. [/QUOTE] “sophmoric and pedantic,” I see you’ve used the universal code words for “I want to make an intelligent sounding criticism but I have nothing to offer, so I’ll fake it.” I find you purple omnipresent and clairavoyant with a fruity bouquet and a cheese aftertaste. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/74 "2006-05-18T00:18:51Z")
[QUOTE=Yeticus Rex] tOto. Now, how about some words that are way cooler than “one trick pony”? [/QUOTE] How about Broken Record? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/75 "2006-05-18T00:19:30Z")
> [@](#): > > wring: > If nothing at all else, I think it’s a cheap shot to call out another poster and then leave for a while. rjung hasn’t come in to comment. so why should Scylla feel any obligation to come in here and argue with all you liberal rjung apologists? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/76 "2006-05-18T00:26:59Z")
[QUOTE=bup] [89 citations of **Scylla** using the word ‘liar’](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=1655781). Every one I have checked directly or obliquely used it to refer to a poster he disagreed with. [/QUOTE] If you wish to compare apples to apples then there are 14 examples in the last year: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=1656859](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=1656859) The last year is the criteria which I searched rjung’s Apparently, you didn’t check very well, or checked selectively. I scanned most of the fourteen from last year, and in several I was quoting another post, another issue, or making a joke. Now, if we are to apply the same criteria to rjung that you did to me and search without time limits you get 160 examples. 160!! Shall I list them? Bear in mind that “liar” is a pretty common word, especially in political discussion. “Bush lied,” “Bush is a liar” “Lies and they lying liars,” most everybody has used the word or quoted it many times. “Apologist” is a much more granular term than liar, and hence uncommon, so 160 is quite an achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/77 "2006-05-18T00:29:44Z")
[QUOTE=World Eater] **Scylla** bro, go outside. I don’t even want to quess how long it took you to compose that OP. [/QUOTE] 7? 10 minutes? Search with user name the term you want. Select your return as posts. Hit search. Wait 20 seconds. Copy and paste link results. How did you think I did it? ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/78 "2006-05-18T00:31:42Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] How did you think I did it? [/QUOTE] Um… magic? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/79 "2006-05-18T00:32:35Z")
[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike] He’s no chum of _mine._ [/QUOTE] True. But you’ll always be my chump. And, you promised me a beer. I never got it. There’s no lower form of pond-scum than a beer-welsher. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068/80 "2006-05-18T00:36:07Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] “sophmoric and pedantic,” I see you’ve used the universal code words for “I want to make an intelligent sounding criticism but I have nothing to offer, so I’ll fake it.” [/QUOTE] Gotta cite for that, o purplest of purple prosers? Or are you just making shit up? Just how much effort do you expect me to go to, if you bore the shit out of me to begin with? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-special-apologist-apoplexy-du-rjung/357068.md?page=5)