# Tonight's the end of Star Trek **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714 "2005-05-13T18:17:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/1 "2005-05-13T18:17:51Z")
…at least in TV show form, for the forseeable future. Even though it had its problems, Enterprise was still Trek. I feel a little sad about the passing of the series, especially the way it went down. ASSUMING YOU LIKED STAR TREK, how do you feel today? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/2 "2005-05-13T18:39:18Z")
Yow – thanks for starting this thread. I hadn’t realized they were airing BOTH of the last two episodes tonight, back to back. I would have only set the VCR for 8-9, and ended up not catching the last one! (I’m never at home on Fridays at 8 PM). As for me, I don’t know how I feel about it all yet. I’ve been taping this season, but I still have lots of episodes to catch up on. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/3 "2005-05-13T18:42:34Z")
> [@The Mad Hermit](#): > > ASSUMING YOU LIKED STAR TREK, how do you feel today? That it won’t die. Not longterm. The cult will continue, and just as happened before, a new generation will arise demanding that they have their own contemporary Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/4 "2005-05-13T18:50:45Z")
I am, surprisingly, excited. The last several episodes, IMO, have been by far the best Enterprise has ever been (well, maybe not Demons, but most everything from the Klingon arc to the Mirror U arc). Unless tonite’s two episodes are the worst two of the whole season, it’ll be going out on a higher note than I possibly could have expected. I’ll miss the idea of Trek, but even as good as this season has been, Enterprise has too much baggage of crappy episodes in its past, so I won’t really miss _it_. Star Trek will be back sooner or later, and IMO it’s likely it’ll be with a better show than the last two. So right now, I’d have to say my strongest feeling is one of catharsis. –Cliffy P.S. Weird that Star Trek and Star Wars are both closing up shop the same week, huh? (Although again, I don’t expect either to be gone forever, and they both continue even today in print.) ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/5 "2005-05-13T18:54:16Z")
Weird. On one hand, I’m sad because it’s ending, because whatever else it may be it is still Trek as you said. It’ll also give me one less thing to look forward to on weekends. On the other hand, I can’t really mourn the passing that much, it’s a hard show for me to really care about. So I’m certainly not happy, but I’m not really sad either. (And count me as another who forgot both were airing tonight. Time to say goodbye to my favorite character–Goodbye Porthos, I’ll miss you) ---
**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/6 "2005-05-13T20:41:15Z")
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to watch it tonight. My dad is taping it though, so I’ll watch it tomorrow. Trek should take a decade long respite. Get some new people and ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/7 "2005-05-13T20:45:58Z")
Relief, mostly. It’s time for a breather; they’ve been flogging this thing well past the point of diminishing returns. **Cliffy** ’s right, the last season picked up considerably, but they’re still staggering across the finish line. And with stuff like _Lost_ and _Galactica_ out there, I’ll get my speculative-fiction fix just fine without _Trek_ to fill the bill. Now I just want them to go back to their offices, really _think_ about why _Trek_ matters, and create a kickass series that lives up to that ideal. What I _don’t_ want is more formula _Trek_ that amounts to nothing more than product in the corporate pipeline. I mean, I know that’s what it is, ultimately, but if that’s _all_ it is, then I don’t need to watch it. An era is ending, and none too soon. So, I’m relieved that the agony is ended in the short term, and I look forward to a glorious resurrection however-many-years from now. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/8 "2005-05-13T21:04:06Z")
> [@The Mad Hermit](#): > > ASSUMING YOU LIKED STAR TREK, how do you feel today? Sad, even though Backula can’t act. Kill Archer, Promote Trip! ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/9 "2005-05-13T21:27:41Z")
> [@The Mad Hermit](#): > > ASSUMING YOU LIKED STAR TREK, how do you feel today? Since you phrased it that way, I have to say that I like Star Trek, but disliked _Enterprise_. So I feel very happy to see _Enterprise_ go away. Now if they get rid of Berman and Braga, and get some creative people who actually have an ounce of creativity, we cold see Star Trek come back with a vengeance. ---
**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/10 "2005-05-13T21:38:48Z")
It will continue, if for no other reason than the fans. Remember, TOS lived on in syndication for 16 years before the next series - and there were a number of movies in the interim. The first major motion picture came out 12 years after TOS was canceled, with cartoons and reruns in the meantime. For those that want a fun little “Trek fix,” you can see some fan-created live-action episodes set in the TOS era at [www.newadventures.com](http://www.newadventures.com) - it treats the TOS characters as being “timeless,” like any Shakespeare character, and thus can be played by anyone, so unknowns take on the rolls of Kirk, McCoy, etc. It’s a little cheesy, but kind of fun, and it’s FREE. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/11 "2005-05-13T23:06:41Z")
Maybe I’ll finally finish my book. Only two more pics to color in! Next year marks the 40th anniversary of Star Trek.I’m sure there will be stuff on the various TV channels and websites to placate us for a while. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/12 "2005-05-13T23:08:25Z")
> [@DirkGntly](#): > > It’s a little cheesy That is the grossest understatement ever made on these Hallowed Boards. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/13 "2005-05-13T23:15:17Z")
Great thread idea, **Hermit**. [Episode Spoilers and Discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316470) I’ll discuss the episodes only over there, and do my rantish editorialising here. I’ll be back… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/14 "2005-05-13T23:32:19Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Kill Archer, Promote Trip! Speaking of Trip. Does [this](http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/584173/Trip.jpg) look like him? Except for the nose, I’d swear it was him. This from the Nick Lowe video, “I Knew the Bride (when she used to rock & roll)”. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/15 "2005-05-14T00:04:17Z")
Ha…I don’t even watch anymore (no cable) and I’m still sad. No more Star Trek to eagerly catch on other people’s Tvs whenever I get a chance. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/16 "2005-05-14T00:08:35Z")
I’m a little sad that Trek is over, but only a little. Frankly, I feel that the series has been on life support for years and this is just putting it out of it’s misery. Like the simpsons, I’ve long since stopped caring. I’ve only been watching lately partially because this is Entprises final run, and paritally because the New BSG is in reruns. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/17 "2005-05-14T00:10:08Z")
When Trek returns, I’d like to see it as a series of 2 hour TV movies based on some of the better novels. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/18 "2005-05-14T00:23:22Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > When Trek returns, I’d like to see it as a series of 2 hour TV movies based on some of the better novels. We’ve discussed this before. I think it could work. It even fits Coto’s mini arc ideas. Kind of like McCloud, MacMillan and Wife, etc…Without having to fill up a weekly spot (weakly!), some effort and money can go to good stories. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/19 "2005-05-14T01:37:55Z")
THAT was a tribute? I’d hate to see what they do with shows they don’t like. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714/20 "2005-05-14T02:10:09Z")
Should have expected it from the way they tried to kill any future for DS9. Thing they were pissed by “Kill Archer, Promote Trip”? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tonights-the-end-of-star-trek/303714.md?page=2)