# Tony Snow dies. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243 "2008-07-12T15:34:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/181 "2008-07-13T02:00:17Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] No, they have to do with you being a worthless sack of shit. [/QUOTE] No, they have to do with Tony Snow being a worthless sack of shit. I’ve never been a mouthpiece for Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/182 "2008-07-13T02:02:45Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] It is, and I can’t speak for local radio personalities I’ve not heard, but by and large the arguments from the right among people I know and the pundits I read… [/QUOTE] Sam, you must at least admit, if you’d read your own words, that 1. You may be guilty of a degree of confirmation and selection bias, since the people you know and the pundits you read may not be a perfect representation of the “Right” or “left” as a whole, and 2. People have cited specific contrary examples just in this thread. I realize you can’t speak for radio shows you haven’t heard, but you should be quite aware that there’s a considerable number of right-wing commentators who do believe “liberals” are bad people to exactly the same extent as many liberals believe “conservatives” are bad people, especially when people have quoted examples you can read by scrolling up. > [@](#): > > Democrats, on the other hand, tend to talk about how Republicans are greedy, don’t care about people, are warmongers, racist, and selfish. I’ve been on the receiving end of too many of those little diatribes from people who are not what I’d consider extremists to just dismiss it. You’re a moderate conservative with specifically liberal positions, and more tolerant than most people, from what I have read. You’ve been subject to various idiocies on this very message board. It’s to be expected, given your position on the political spectrum, that you’re going to be on the receiving end of intolerant stupidity. Please believe me on this - and you’re welcome to disbelieve me, but as a political dead-center moderate with less partisan interest in American politics than you seem to have, and as a guy who’s travelled a LOT in the USA, I think I have a decent read on this - the hatred and vitriol that goes the other way in the USA, especially from the social/Christian conservative movement, is quite extreme in its level of personal contempt. There are millions of Republicans who do not believe Democrats are people wit hbad ideas; they believe Democrats are bad people. There is a reason that a book by a TV blowhard accusing liberals of being traitors sold millions of copies. It’s not just a handful of extremists. It’s every bit as significant a part of the right as the Diogenes-the-Cynics are of the left. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/183 "2008-07-13T02:05:42Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] No, they have to do with Tony Snow being a worthless sack of shit. [/QUOTE] Be that as it may, rejoicing in his suffering until he died puts you squarely at his level. I’m truly disgusted with you. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/184 "2008-07-13T02:08:58Z")
I am not an example of someone like that on the left. My opinion on Snow and the Bushista _et al_ has nothing to do with left-right ideology. I don’t think McCain is evil. I don’t think Bush Sr. was evil. I don’t think Reagan was evil. I’m not even sure that W is evil. I think his administration is evil, though, and not because they disagree with me on capital gains taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/185 "2008-07-13T02:09:36Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] **elucidator** , I’m still astonished. **DtC** is completely, absolutely, 100% out of line here, and you’re sucking his dick and saying, “Oh yeah, go on,” in between swallowing. [/QUOTE] If he’s that much out of line, why don’t you at least warn him? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/186 "2008-07-13T02:10:40Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Be that as it may, rejoicing in his suffering until he died puts you squarely at his level. I’m truly disgusted with you. [/QUOTE] Like I said upthread. I didn’t really, literally rejoice in his suffering. That’s the only thing I’ve said in this thread that I regret. It wasn’t true. It was said from spite. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/187 "2008-07-13T02:11:54Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] If he’s that much out of line, why don’t you at least warn him? [/QUOTE] Because I’m not breaking any rules, retard. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/188 "2008-07-13T02:15:44Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] If he’s that much out of line, why don’t you at least warn him? [/QUOTE] I don’t see it as warnable yet, as a moderator. (Adding title now.) I’ll admit, I came really close to making a note after his first post in this thread. Should he continue this activity in another thread, I will certainly reconsider. My personal feelings should have little or nothing (preferably nothing) to do with my views as a mod. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/189 "2008-07-13T02:18:28Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Like I said upthread. I didn’t really, literally rejoice in his suffering. That’s the only thing I’ve said in this thread that I regret. It wasn’t true. It was said from spite. [/QUOTE] You still stand by this, which did not contain the word “rejoice”? > [@](#): > > I’m glad it was something as painful and undignified as colon cancer and I hope he suffered. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/190 "2008-07-13T02:18:31Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I don’t see it as warnable yet, as a moderator. (Adding title now.) I’ll admit, I came really close to making a note after his first post in this thread. Should he continue this activity in another thread, I will certainly reconsider. [/quote] Just for my own clarification, exactly what “activity” should I avoid continuing in other threads? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/191 "2008-07-13T02:18:59Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] **elucidator** , I’m still astonished. **DtC** is completely, absolutely, 100% out of line here, and you’re sucking his dick and saying, “Oh yeah, go on,” in between swallowing. Who do you think you are, Ken from Connecticut? Your puns and your one-liners will be a lot less funny to my now that I know what you really are. I’m only sorry I’m not allowed to put posters on an ignore list. [/QUOTE] Tell you what, I’ll keep my usrname right up top there, and when you see it, you can pick up your little basket and skip along, skip along… It’ll be hard, at first, but somehow I’ll find the strength to go on… What cause have you to insult me like this? When have I offered you an injury? You ask what I think, I explain myself to you. This is worthy of insult, this is “sucking his dick…between swallowing…”? Been a long time since anyone deliberately tried to make an enemy of me, I had hoped it would be longer. But if my only crime is telling you sincerely what I think then you can lick the brown grease from my dogs asshole, because he’s too drunk to do it right now. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/192 "2008-07-13T02:21:38Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] You still stand by this, which did not contain the word “rejoice”? [/QUOTE] I never actually used the word “rejoice” in _any_ post. That was other peoples’ characterization of that statement in my first post, and that is the statement I didn’t mean and wish I hadn’t said. I wasn’t really “glad” he suffered. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/193 "2008-07-13T02:24:47Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Just for my own clarification, exactly what “activity” should I avoid continuing in other threads? [/QUOTE] Please see post #189, which quotes you as coming real close to jerkishness. Or trolling. Whatever. If you should decide that that is a good way to behave on this board, then I will warn you just as quickly as I do the **VC03** ’s and **Two and a Half Inches** of the board. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/194 "2008-07-13T02:27:50Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Like I said upthread. I didn’t really, literally rejoice in his suffering. That’s the only thing I’ve said in this thread that I regret. It wasn’t true. It was said from spite. [/QUOTE] I thought you were dropping out of this thread? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9994980&postcount=39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9994980&postcount=39) ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/195 "2008-07-13T02:28:31Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I never actually used the word “rejoice” in _any_ post. [/QUOTE] You don’t have to use the word to perform the action. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/196 "2008-07-13T02:29:49Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] … when you see it, you can pick up your little basket and skip along, skip along… [/QUOTE] Gee, maybe all us mods should just skip along. Am I uppity? I am _not_ talking to _you_ as a mod, however. I am talking to you as a fellow human being who is disgusted at your support of someone who is happy that another human being died a painful and horrible death. What did you do to insult me? Guess. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/197 "2008-07-13T02:33:00Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] You don’t have to use the word to perform the action. [/QUOTE] **Frank** was the one splitting that hair, not me. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/198 "2008-07-13T02:36:46Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] **Frank** was the one splitting that hair, not me. [/QUOTE] Yes, you did, you liar. Right here, this is YOU splitting that hair: > [@You](#): > > I never actually used the word “rejoice” in any post. That was other peoples’ characterization of that statement in my first post… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/199 "2008-07-13T02:37:38Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Yes, you did, you liar. Right here, this is YOU splitting that hair: [/QUOTE] Read the fucking posts preceding that, moron. You’re totally misconstruing the exchange. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/200 "2008-07-13T02:41:25Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] You’re totally misconstruing the exchange. [/QUOTE] No, I’m not. You’re trying to weasel out of it and failing badly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243.md?page=11)