# Tony Snow dies. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243 "2008-07-12T15:34:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/381 "2008-07-14T19:31:30Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] For the love of fuck, don’t you people have _lives?_ [/QUOTE] “ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!” ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/382 "2008-07-14T19:32:32Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Well, I’ll never agree with that. Compare their paychecks and airtime. No way an 18-year-old private is guiltier than someone with Snow’s paycheck. [/QUOTE] Or maybe, just maybe, he’s crazier than a shit house rat? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/383 "2008-07-14T19:39:25Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Or maybe you’re biased on the other side because you so anti-Bush. Ever consider that? [/QUOTE] Nope. My anti-Bush feelings were earned honestly. They did not arise from _a priori_ political bias. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/384 "2008-07-14T19:41:47Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Nope. My anti-Bush feelings were earned honestly. They did not arise from _a priori_ political bias. [/QUOTE] That’s not what I meant. It’s possible to bake a legitimate political gripe and extrapolate it beyond what is reasonable due the bias the gripe has produced. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/385 "2008-07-14T19:42:01Z")
Whoops. I was wrong about Mussolini: He was executed by gunshot. (One to chest, one to head.) The disfiguration came postmortem. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/386 "2008-07-14T19:46:16Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] That’s not what I meant. It’s possible to bake a legitimate political gripe and extrapolate it beyond what is reasonable due the bias the gripe has produced. [/QUOTE] But this is a case where my gripes were _caused_ by the issue under discussion. Prior to the build up to Iraq, I did not have early the same animus towards Bush that I had afterwards. I wasn’t repelled by the invasion of Iraq because Bush did it, I was repelled by Bush because he invaded Iraq. For years, this administration kept exceeding my own cynicism. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/387 "2008-07-14T20:53:23Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] But this is a case where my gripes were _caused_ by the issue under discussion. Prior to the build up to Iraq, I did not have early the same animus towards Bush that I had afterwards. I wasn’t repelled by the invasion of Iraq because Bush did it, I was repelled by Bush because he invaded Iraq. For years, this administration kept exceeding my own cynicism. [/QUOTE] All well and good, and I can say pretty much the same thing myself. However, that does not preclude the possibility that a now-existing disgust for Bush has made it easy to lump the Iraq War into the same bucket as the invasion of Poland. Just as you are reluctant to paint the US soldiers in too negative a light, might it not also be possible that you are (now) all too eager to paint Bush in an overly negative light. Anyway, I’m not really trying to convince you of this, so I won’t take it any further. Just something you might think about. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/388 "2008-07-14T22:52:00Z")
**Diogenes** , Before this thread finally winds down, would you mind letting me know if you still hold to the positions that Tony Snow’s career was analogous to Joseph Goebbels’ and that the invasion of Iraq was on the same moral plane as the German conquest of Poland in WW2? Just for future reference. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/389 "2008-07-14T22:59:02Z")
Yes and yes. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/390 "2008-07-14T23:02:29Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Yes and yes. [/QUOTE] OK. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/391 "2008-07-15T00:11:28Z")
How many moral planes are there? Just two? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/392 "2008-07-15T00:19:24Z")
[QUOTE=mr. jp] How many moral planes are there? Just two? [/QUOTE] Just two that crashed into the Trade Towers, but there was one moral plane that crashed into the Pentagon, and another moral plane that crashed in Pennsylvania… ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/393 "2008-07-15T01:51:22Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Yes and yes. [/QUOTE] Another lesson. Be a dick till the end. Oh, wait. It’s just a message board. Words, words, words. All the fury with no action. Rock on my bad ass brother, rock on. Keep the hate in your head, where it can do no harm. I have judged you wrongly my friend. It’s better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/394 "2008-07-15T08:41:25Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Another lesson. Be a dick till the end. Oh, wait. It’s just a message board. Words, words, words. All the fury with no action. Rock on my bad ass brother, rock on. Keep the hate in your head, where it can do no harm. I have judged you wrongly my friend. It’s better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. [/QUOTE] Are you drunk, or quoting song lyrics? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/395 "2008-07-15T14:49:49Z")
_“Ducks…breaking wind…All we are is ducks breaking wind…”_ Is that the one? ---
**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/396 "2008-07-15T23:14:58Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I didn’t like him and will not miss him. I’m glad he’s dead. I’m glad it was something as painful and undignified as colon cancer and I hope he suffered. Let’s hope it’s only the beginning for Fox News shills and Bush collaborators alike. [/QUOTE] Sadly, I just finished reading this entire abortion of thread, and I gotta say Diogenes, you’re one disturbed sack of shit. No really, you are fucked in the head. In the seven years I’ve been here, not once have I seen something so over-the-edge like this. Congratulations, I’m thoroughly disgusted. Whatever gave birth to you, it would be proud. Also, and almost as disturbing, is the lattitude given to you by the admins of the SDMB. It must be out of pure sympathy for your mental condition, or your Trolling Post to Useless Post ratio has not reached a level that would require the banning of your sick sorry ass. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/397 "2008-07-15T23:46:42Z")
You know, I find it amusing that this has resulted in a 10-page pile-on on **Diogenes** , but when I posted an opinion that I think is analogous to his on page 7, nobody even so much as made a peep about it. Why is that, do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/398 "2008-07-16T00:47:06Z")
[QUOTE=Drain Bead] You know, I find it amusing that this has resulted in a 10-page pile-on on **Diogenes** , but when I posted an opinion that I think is analogous to his on page 7, nobody even so much as made a peep about it. Why is that, do you think? [/QUOTE] I can’t find it. What’s the post # please? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/399 "2008-07-16T00:58:54Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Balls has nothing to do with it. It simply wouldn’t be accurate. Maybe I’m biased from having been in the military and having come from a military family. [/QUOTE] No, it’s because you’re a gutless hypocrite. Balls has everything to do with it. You lack them. ---
**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243/400 "2008-07-16T00:58:55Z")
[QUOTE=Drain Bead] You know, I find it amusing that this has resulted in a 10-page pile-on on **Diogenes** , but when I posted an opinion that I think is analogous to his on page 7, nobody even so much as made a peep about it. Why is that, do you think? [/QUOTE] Because your post [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9997426#post9997426) was a reasonable response based on your opinion. Whereas… [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I didn’t like him and will not miss him. I’m glad he’s dead. **I’m glad it was something as painful and undignified as colon cancer and I hope he suffered.** Let’s hope it’s only the beginning for Fox News shills and Bush collaborators alike. [/QUOTE] ..is just fucking evil. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-dies/456243.md?page=21)