# Tony Snow to resign **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648 "2007-08-31T18:15:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/1 "2007-08-31T18:15:05Z")
In the pit because that’s where it’ll end up anyway. From [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/31/white.house.snow/index.html): > [@](#): > > White House press secretary Tony Snow, who is undergoing treatment for cancer, will step down from his post September 14 and be replaced by deputy press secretary Dana Perino, the White House announced Friday. > > President Bush told reporters Friday that he will “sadly accept” Snow’s resignation. One odd bit: > [@](#): > > Snow, who had said he would leave his post before the end of Bush’s second term, repeated that the decision is based on finances, not health. He took a major pay cut after leaving the world of cable television and talk radio to come to the White House. This despite the fact that he has five tumors and makes about $170,000 a year. Anybody care to start a pool on the next to resign? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/2 "2007-08-31T18:17:31Z")
How the hell did you scoop BrainGlutton on this? ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/3 "2007-08-31T18:18:24Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] How the hell did you scoop BrainGlutton on this? [/QUOTE] Damned if I know. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/4 "2007-08-31T18:24:17Z")
[QUOTE=ultrafilter] Anybody care to start a pool on the next to resign? [/QUOTE] I’ll put a couple of bucks on Condi. I think she’s going to try to get into one of the 2008 heir apparents’ campaign. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/5 "2007-08-31T18:26:20Z")
Why are we Pitting this? He’s fighting cancer, most officials don’t last the full 4 or 8 years, and he did take a pay cut to become Press Secretary. I wish him good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/6 "2007-08-31T18:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Why are we Pitting this? He’s fighting cancer, most officials don’t last the full 4 or 8 years, and he did take a pay cut to become Press Secretary. I wish him good luck. [/QUOTE] Agreed. I have no love for Tony Snow, but he has cancer and is quitting the worst job in the universe to go make more money doing something else. Can’t really blame him. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/7 "2007-08-31T18:34:14Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Why are we Pitting this? [/QUOTE] Because everyone who is associated with Bush’s administration is vile and evil? ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/8 "2007-08-31T18:36:57Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Why are we Pitting this? [/QUOTE] I’m not pitting it per se–I actually thought about opening it in MPSIMS–but discussions about the Bush administration have a way of ending up down here anyway. Maybe I misjudged. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/9 "2007-08-31T18:37:19Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Why are we Pitting this? [/QUOTE] Eventually somebody will come along to say what a shitbag Snow is, so it might as well be here. I can’t think of anything good to say about him, myself, but I hope his health is alright. And if you think he’s a bad guy, maybe he’ll do less damage back in the private sector. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/10 "2007-08-31T18:52:16Z")
I doubt very highly that he is really leaving to make more money. I’d bet that he is very ill and doesn’t really want to make it a major public issue. The unfortunate fact is that once cancer goes to the liver, it is only a matter of time. Frankly, I’ve been kind of surprised he has continued working this long. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/11 "2007-08-31T18:53:53Z")
[QUOTE=ultrafilter] he . . . makes about $170,000 a year. [/QUOTE] which was a significant pay cut and is not a huge salary, especially for a metro area. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/12 "2007-08-31T18:54:39Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] Because everyone who is associated with Bush’s administration is vile and evil? [/QUOTE] Well, there is that. . . . Since, so far as I can tell, Snow is not leaving under any sort of cloud, this may indeed prove to be the most anemic Pitting ever. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/13 "2007-08-31T19:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=whole bean] which was a significant pay cut and is not a huge salary, especially for a metro area. [/QUOTE] Unless he’s got six kids in St. Alban’s all at the same time, it’s certainly enough to get by on. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/14 "2007-08-31T19:06:23Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Unless he’s got six kids in St. Alban’s all at the same time, it’s certainly enough to get by on. [/QUOTE] I think this board had the same debate when Tommy Thompson (or I think it was Thompson) quit. If Snow was in TV for years and made way more money, I can imagine $168,000 per year not being enough to cover the expenses he still had plus whatever medical expenses he now has. Incidentally, he has been married for 20 years and has three kids, so some of them could be college age. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/15 "2007-08-31T19:10:35Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] Well, there is that. . . . [/QUOTE] I’m just guessing. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/16 "2007-08-31T19:10:52Z")
Whether he lies his butt off on Fox or sitting in for Rash Limpballs or in the White House doesn’t make a bit of difference to me. If he wants to go enjoy his family with such an uncertain health outlook, I can’t blame him a bit. Although he’s politically misguided, I give him credit for fighting cancer couragously and his defense of Elizabeth Edwards’ decision to campaign was a credit to him as well. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/17 "2007-08-31T19:13:40Z")
I don’t see a reason to Pit Snow, except that he was a part of the Bush propoganda machine. I was just reading about this myself and had to chuckle when I got to this gem about his replacement, from [this](http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070831/D8RC5C000.html) article. > [@](#): > > Bush said the 35-year-old Perino was “a smart, capable person who is able to spell out the issues of the day in a way that people listening on TV can understand. She can handle you all.” At least he says what he’s thinking. We’ll be “handled” all right! And “people listening on TV” means the idiot sheep he seems to think we are. Fucking turd. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/18 "2007-08-31T19:22:58Z")
I’m not entirely surprised that 168k a year isn’t enough; as others have said, kids are expensive, and I imagine that treating stage IV cancer isn’t too light on the pocketbook either. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/19 "2007-08-31T19:29:21Z")
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny] At least he says what he’s thinking. We’ll be “handled” all right! And “people listening on TV” means the idiot sheep he seems to think we are. Fucking turd. [/quote] To be fair, 1. Bush’s remarks were made in front of the White House Press Corps. The “she can handle you all” was doubtless a reference to the reporters in the press corps, not hte public at large. 2. The people “listening on TV” get a five-second sound bite for every “issue of the day.” Packing the correct spin into a five-second sound-bite so that it’s plausible and not confusing takes some skill. The fact that news is delivered this way is hardly Bush’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648/20 "2007-08-31T19:39:49Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Unless he’s got six kids in St. Alban’s all at the same time, it’s certainly enough to get by on. [/QUOTE] What if he doesn’t want to “get by”? Does get by mean “live comfortably”? Does it mean college tuition or (god-forbid) private schools? For a man like Snow, $168,000/year is a huge pay cut. For perspective, it’s only slightly more than the market rate starting salary for first year associates in NYC/DC law firms – first year associates (i.e. mostly 26 year olds). Wealth is relative, but I stand by my statement, it’s not a huge salary, especially for a metro area. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-snow-to-resign/417648.md?page=2)