# Too bad Sanders is jewish

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 13, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507 "2015-10-13T02:08:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/41 "2015-10-14T19:07:43Z")

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And [this](http://www.murphysmagicsupplies.com/images/DVDEXTREMEBURN2-FULL.jpg) is Sanders’ Burn.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/42 "2015-10-14T19:18:42Z")

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> [@Whatever4](#):
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> Does that mean his campaign slogan will be “and a matzoh ball in every pot”?😕

Only one matzoh ball? What happened to the portions!?

[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Next thing their going to tell us he’s from New York and not VT. Even with that quintessential VT accent!!!  
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Accent? What accent? That’s the way normal people talk.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/43 "2015-10-14T19:30:52Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> What’s the big deal, when we’ve already had a Muslim president?

And more’n a few Catholic ones, too !

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/44 "2015-10-14T19:58:02Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No, [this](https://www.google.com/search?q=belt+sander&biw=1001&bih=270&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMIvfC3scLCyAIVVCmICh0zDgyh#imgrc=X8Jn0xnr5JvEYM%3A) is Bernie’s sander.

I’ve often wondered if this was another [jewish sander](https://www.google.com/search?q=image+norm+abram&espv=2&biw=1536&bih=892&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CBwQsARqFQoTCLmx0tDfwsgCFQUikAodbcAPgg).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/45 "2015-10-15T02:10:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Who are also from New York.
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> Which, I gather, was your point.

Yes it was.

But really the joke works a lot better when you explain the punchline.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/46 "2015-10-15T02:26:20Z")

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Bernie has a better Israel policy than Chuck Schumer. He and a group of other Jewish congresscritters voted against the Iran deal because they saw themselves as “protectors of Israel”. I took it as their not having their priorities straight, putting Israel ahead of the US. If you want to be like that, do it somewhere other than Congress! :mad:

Bernie OTOH gives me hope for congressional Jews. _However_, you never know what other unsavory Jewish secrets he may be harboring. Can he prove he never once drank the blood of children?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/47 "2015-10-15T02:49:25Z")

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> [@BorgHunter](#):
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> This thread is like nails on a chalkboard to me. The _correct_ plural is Bernies Sander. Everyone, please get it right.

I thought it was Bernies de Sander…

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/48 "2015-10-15T03:38:10Z")

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If Bernie controls the Media, why doesn’t he get more media coverage?

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/49 "2015-10-18T19:36:10Z")

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I wish Bernie Sanders would quit fooling around with this political stuff and get back to work on a new season of _Curb Your Enthusiasm_.

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/50 "2015-10-18T19:40:15Z")

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> [@ivorytowerdenizen](#):
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> the right to know what?
> 
> Sanders is jewish? Not a secret and no more relevant than kennedy’s catholicism was (people,feared he’d be a pawn of the vatican).
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> That he might have an opinion on israel? Hopefully he does.
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> Might be different than obama, ok… I’m sure it’ll come out in the debates.
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> What exactly is your point?

like ! there is no like button here .

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/51 "2015-10-20T07:13:33Z")

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I used to worry what a USA President Joe Lieberman would mean for our Middle Eastern relations. One reason I hesitated to vote for Gore.

At this point, I’ve seen so many Christian politicians bend over backwards to prove themselves more Zionist than any Jew, I don’t care anymore. Bring on the Jew.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/52 "2015-10-20T07:20:52Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘They tell me Bernie Sanders can’t win because America won’t vote for a socialist Jew. I tell them America celebrates a socialist Jew every December 25th.’

I need this on a yard sign, I think.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/53 "2015-10-20T07:59:29Z")

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I think him being Jewish is a good thing, because he is descended from one of the Hebrew kings from the Old Testament. The Hebrews legitimately have a strong bloodline, and really they are carrying memories of egypt in their collective unconscious, so they have knowledge that was lost when the library in Alexandria burned down. Monotheism came from Egypt and it was the Hebrews’ time in Egypt that formed them into what they are. And Bernie Sanders is descended from these people.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/54 "2015-10-20T08:57:40Z")

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> **[Evidence for the Exodus](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_Exodus)**
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> This article examines the Young Earth creationist and Biblical literalist claims regarding the historical reality of the Exodus of the Hebrew people from Egypt, as well as the evidence relating to such claims.

Well, I like Bernie, but there is no actual evidence of Jewish enslavement.

I like how the Egyptians apparently kept no record at all of God being angry with them and sending plagues against them. That’s the sort of thing that tends to stick around in the historical record and in oral tradition. Somehow, the Egyptians themselves seem to be completely unaware of owning millions of jewish slaves or their escape or a hail of plagues, and they never told such stories after the alleged events.

Seems like someone made it all up many centuries later. It’s almost like all these myths are not actually historically true. Which would explain why God only ever really spoke to a few people who had heard about him already, as opposed to say, Japanese people, native Americans, Scandinavians, and other groups who were never sent any prophets.

Seems kinda weird God only wants to talk to just a few tribes localized in one geographic area a very long time ago. It’s almost as if it’s all fairy tales and nonsense.

So if we could get real for a second, yes, Bernie is Jewish, no, there’s nothing particularly magical about his bloodline and he doesn’t carry memories of being whipped by Egyptians in his magical jewish blood.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/55 "2015-10-20T12:32:28Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I need this on a yard sign, I think.

You had a better one in your previous post.

> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Bring on the Jew.\*

\*although rumor has it this is a popular chant at Stormfront rallies.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/56 "2015-10-20T12:58:35Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> I think him being Jewish is a good thing, because he is descended from one of the Hebrew kings from the Old Testament.

All Jews aren’t descended from the Hebrew kings, no matter how you look at it. The rest of your post is nonsense as well, but this part is factual nonsense.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/57 "2015-10-20T13:04:27Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> I think him being Jewish is a good thing, because he is descended from one of the Hebrew kings from the Old Testament. The Hebrews legitimately have a strong bloodline, and really they are carrying memories of egypt in their collective unconscious, so they have knowledge that was lost when the library in Alexandria burned down. Monotheism came from Egypt and it was the Hebrews’ time in Egypt that formed them into what they are. And Bernie Sanders is descended from these people.

I’m Jewish and this is silliness. Wether he’s a Jew or not is nether good nor bad.

Is he experienced, educated, thoughtful, capable and do his goals align with my vision of what’s best for this country are the only characteristics that matter for any candidate.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/58 "2015-10-20T15:39:38Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> Bernie Sanders have a Jewish background and consider him selves to be jewish.
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> I guess that under his rule (if he’s elected), USA will follow the same line towards Israel as under Clinton and Bush/Cheney.
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> What are his policy about this issue?

Under his _rule_? You seem to have an inadequate grasp of the limits of Presidential power.

Also, “the same line as under Clinton and Bush/Cheney”. Also notoriously Jewish.:smack:

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/59 "2015-10-20T23:57:05Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> Bernie Sanders have a Jewish background and consider him selves to be jewish.

How many of those selves are Jewish?

> [@](#):
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> I guess that under his rule (if he’s elected), USA will follow the same line towards Israel as under Clinton and Bush/Cheney.

Presidents in the United States of America do not rule.

> [@](#):
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> What are his policy about this issue?

Are you doing this on purpose?

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-bad-sanders-is-jewish/734507/60 "2015-10-21T01:27:06Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> All Jews aren’t descended from the Hebrew kings, no matter how you look at it.

Anyone from that far in the past, if they have any living descendants at all, could probably claim every person now living as a descendant:

> **[The Royal We](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/05/the-royal-we/302497/)**
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> The mathematical study of genealogy indicates that everyone in the world is descended from Nefertiti and Confucius, and everyone of European ancestry is descended from Muhammad and Charlemagne

We all are probably direct descendants of King David. This includes Scandic 😉

As a Jew, I’d say that I’m unlikely to have a much higher percentage of ancestry from slaves in Egypt than anyone else (besides that there’s some controversy over whether ancient Egypt had slavery). But maybe, compared to the average non-Jew, my chances of being descended from slaves in Egypt is just a little higher.

It’s much more likely that an above-average portion of my ancestry likely traces to slaves in ancient Rome.

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Seems like someone made it all up many centuries later. It’s almost like all these myths are not actually historically true.

The farther back in the past, the more likely the myths are all false. But there is a little independent evidence for King David, and more for a bunch of Biblical kings after him. Example:

> **[Hezekiah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezekiah)**
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> Hezekiah (/ˌhɛzɪˈkaɪ.ə/; Biblical Hebrew: .mw-parser-output .script-hebrew,.mw-parser-output .script-Hebr{font-family:"Ezra SIL SR","Ezra SIL","SBL Hebrew","Taamey Frank CLM","SBL BibLit","Taamey Ashkenaz","Frank Ruehl CLM","Keter Aram Tsova","Taamey David CLM","Keter YG","Shofar","David CLM","Hadasim CLM","Simple CLM","Nachlieli",Cardo,Alef,"Noto Serif Hebrew","Noto Sans Hebrew","David Libre",David,"Times New Roman",Gisha,Arial,FreeSerif,FreeSans}חִזְקִיָּהוּ‎, romanized: Ḥizqiyyāhu), or Ezeki...

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