# Too Honest **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 14, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456 "2011-06-14T17:07:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cryptic\_C62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cryptic\_C62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cryptic_C62)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/1 "2011-06-14T17:07:31Z")
**Story 1** : At the time, I was doing the Disney College Program in Orlando. At some point I was skyping with my friend Nala from Boston. She happened to catch a glimpse of my sizzling suitemate Tasteful and vice versa. I introduce them to each other, they start hitting it off. Within a few weeks, they are chatting regularly and even discussing the possibility of a visit. Nala and I were discussing this sudden transcontinental romance, and she was telling me how great Tasteful is and how much fun he is to talk to and how she’s looking forward to meeting him in person and doing saucy things… I suddenly blurt out “You do know he’s having sex with a South African girl right now, right?” Nala was not a happy camper. In retrospect, I probably could have been a bit more tactful. Nala didn’t really want to know what Tasteful was up to, and Tasteful didn’t really want me blabbing about the multiplicity of his affections. Whoops! **Story 2** : Nala, Cupcake and I meet up with a herd of Brazilian musicians to jam and hang out in their practice studio. It was a fun evening full of loud music, booze, and general shenanigans. Cupcake gets far too drunk, starts feeling sick, and also starts getting oddly paranoid. Nala and I brought her out into the hallway, where she started crying and insisting that the Brazilian gents were making fun of her. Nala, in her best tending-to-drunk-friend voice, says “No, they weren’t making fun of you at all, right Cryptic?”. She was probably expecting a response along the lines of “Yeah, they’re just talking about music, why would they even want to make fun of you?”. Instead, I went with “How the fuck would I know? They’re speaking Portuguese.” _Nala glares_ _Cupcake cries_ Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendajo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arrendajo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrendajo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/2 "2011-06-14T17:09:47Z")
You’re having too much fun. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/3 "2011-06-14T17:32:12Z")
I wanna eat Cupcake. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/4 "2011-06-14T17:59:05Z")
Well now, seems like The Situation is a sticky one. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/5 "2011-06-14T18:00:55Z")
> [@Cryptic\_C62](#): > > Nala, Cupcake and I meet up with a herd of Brazilian musicians We’ve all been there. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/6 "2011-06-14T20:43:26Z")
Was Cupcake smoking weed? Weed’ll make you paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/7 "2011-06-16T05:58:24Z")
I used to hang out at The Commons with the College Program and the Internationals sometimes. They had the wildest parties I’ve ever seen, and I went to a pretty hard-partying college. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/8 "2011-06-16T06:54:57Z")
You might want to tone down the brutal in this brutally honest thing you’ve got going. Start asking yourself questions like: Did this person ask me for this information? Do I need to tell this person this information? Will this person being better off with this information? Will this person be happier with this information? Do I know this for a fact or am I just speculating? Is there a way to convey this information that will cause less bad feelings? ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/9 "2011-06-16T11:20:10Z")
The cry of the self-righteous asshole: “Hey, I’m just being honest!” ETA: **Cryptic** , I’m not necessarily referring to you here since you to be doing some soul searching, but, damn, I hate that excuse for saying whatever the hell you want, damn the consequences. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/10 "2011-06-16T13:14:13Z")
The muscle you exercise is the one that grows stronger, including the ‘asshole’ muscle. Dressing it up as ‘too honest’ comes across as insincere to me. Not to mention the insult to everyone’s intelligence it is to play along like you don’t understand the nuance of subtext of your remarks. Mostly it’s an insult to your own intelligence. It looks like your ego, needing to make things that aren’t, all about you. As with all issues regarding your ego, there is really only one relationship; master/slave. Guess you’ll have to decide which you’d like to be. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/11 "2011-06-16T13:24:10Z")
Re: Story 1. “Honesty” is fessing up to things that might make you look bad, or show you in a negative light (i.e., what you did by posting your OP, oh the irony it doth burn). Being a dick by interfering where it isn’t your business is not most people’s definition of honesty. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/12 "2011-06-16T13:55:33Z")
Too tactless. Nothing wrong with the honesty. The first one you could have been honest with tact, and probably should have…“You know, Tasteful is seeing other people, right?” To which she would have saved face and said “Oh, yeah, I know.” And you would have said “He’s a great guy, and a lot of fun, but he isn’t exactly ready to settle down with a white picket fence and a dog.” Translation: go ahead and use this guy for sex, that’s what he does. But this isn’t a “romance.” The second time, similarly “I don’t know since I don’t speak Portugese, but you aren’t comfortable, lets go somewhere else.” i.e. address the problem in a way that lets the person you care about know you give a damn. ---
**Author:** ![Cryptic\_C62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cryptic\_C62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cryptic_C62)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/13 "2011-06-16T13:59:54Z")
In the case of story 1, it had gotten to the point in the conversation where I started to feel _dis_honest by _not_ telling her what was going on. I really did feel that knowing the reality of the situation, however unpleasant it might have been at first, would be better for her in the long run. I just should have phrased it more carefully. In the case of story 2, the fact just popped into my head and I spat it out without thinking. This wasn’t a case of good intentions vs. bad intentions, it was a case of thinking vs. not thinking. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-honest/585456/14 "2011-06-16T17:01:13Z")
You never hear someone say, “Don’t yell at me, I’m just being tactful!”