# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/201 "2010-05-06T16:22:39Z")
You can catch two of the ones that you can see, if you’re quick on the draw. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/202 "2010-05-06T17:00:16Z")
All right, I cast sleep at them. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/203 "2010-05-06T18:00:15Z")
I’ve got the ranged attacks, so I shall try to take out any frogs trying to harm me. Self-preservation is a good instinct to have. 😃 Though if I do see a wounded frog or a weakened one, I’ll try to be an opportunist and use my Magic Missile on the occasion, but I’d rather save that shot for when it’s needed and depend on my darts in the meantime if I can. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/204 "2010-05-07T16:49:33Z")
“I’m digging fighting in Super Slow-Mo it’s almost like time has stopped.” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/205 "2010-05-07T17:18:54Z")
(Sorry - have to go out for the evening - will update tomorrow.) ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/206 "2010-05-08T15:55:57Z")
Here goes: The frogs react more quickly than you were expecting. They all have gigantic tongues which flicker out with startling speed. **Melon, Frodo, appleciders** and **Ishtar** all find themselves caught. The frogs are trying to pull you off the path into the deeper water and mud. **Melon** tries a panicky swat with his mace on the tongue that is stuck to him but doesn’t hit it effectively. **Hoopy** casts sleep as per the plan and puts out the two frogs attacking **Frodo** who, however, was interrupted before he could start his spell this round. **appleciders** braces himself against the pull of the tongue and hits it, raising a bloody gash - the frog lets go with an offended croak and hops closer, snapping its absurdly large teeth menacingly. **Ishtar** accurately nails the frog at the other end of the tongue holding him with two darts out of three, dropping the annoying amphibian; but the dart that misses lands in the water and disappears for ever with a mocking gurgle. **Oredigger77** needs more reach and belts his axe in favour of the halberd - it’s very hard to switch places on this narrow path. **Wolverine** hits fresh air with his mace. **Autolycus** makes a wild swipe with his sword, menacing nothing, and **Trotman** looses off a couple of arrows without effect. The remaining frogs continue to try to pull you into the swamp. Another tongue hits **Melon** and the two frogs already attached carry on pulling. **Trotman** looses off twice at the one on **appleciders** , wounding it. **Oredigger77** stretches out as far as he can but cannot reach far enough to help now that **Frodo** ’s frogs have been dealt with. **appleciders** and **Frodo** can’t reach, but **Autolycus** knocks one of the tongues off **Melon** - just as well, as the Pastafarian didn’t seem to be managing anything very effective. **Ishtar** hangs onto his remaining darts. Disheartened by the ferocity of the resistance, the remaining frogs hop off into the swamp. There are two sleeping ones just out of poking range, but you could get an unopposed round of missile fire into them if you wish (any hit on them will wake them up, and **Hoopy** knows that his spell will wear off in about three more minutes anyway). With very great care, you could try to salvage two of **Ishtar** ’s darts which are stuck in a dead frog. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/207 "2010-05-08T16:54:55Z")
I check to make sure everyone is ok/no one below half health. “Just like a good roof, we built a solid defense that the storm of frogs could not prevail against.” I had the most miraculous hit of all. I found fresh air in a swamp." ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/208 "2010-05-08T19:35:18Z")
Ishtar shall carefully try to salvage his darts. If anyone wants me to take the free shot at one of the frogs, I certainly can do so, but only if the others deem it the right thing to do. And I’d rather stay a bit back from the actually messiness of… killing it. So if others would like to sneak up on the frog to perhaps stab it… in the back. I can certainly aid from a distance with the magic Missile. Just say the word, and I’ll go for it. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/209 "2010-05-08T20:05:12Z")
I’ll draw my bow, nock an arrow, and prepare to shoot the sleeping frogs in synch with the other ranged weapons in the group. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/210 "2010-05-08T20:06:14Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > Just say the word, and I’ll go for it. I’m not sure if I can reach, but I say do it. I like fire. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/211 "2010-05-09T00:12:34Z")
**Melon** has yet to hit a single thing in the entire game. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/212 "2010-05-09T06:12:30Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > **Melon** has yet to hit a single thing in the entire game. You overcooked your noodles. You need to be more al dente. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/213 "2010-05-09T09:16:19Z")
A coordinated volley of missile fire (don’t forget that you carry a sling for occasions like this, **Autolycus** ) sees the two remaining frogs dispatched to the Happy Spawning Grounds with no need for the Magic Missile. **Ishtar** manages to retrieve his darts without quite getting stuck, but it’s closer than he likes and entails getting seriously muddy. No-one is badly hurt and the passage of the marshes resumes. **Melon** , being low level sucks - there isn’t anything in the game that you even have much more than a 50-50 chance of hitting at the moment. And you haven’t been in many fights yet. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/214 "2010-05-09T09:40:42Z")
“I guess it ain’t easy being green” quips **Autolycus** as he runs his fingers over the sling he had forgotten in his back pocket. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/215 "2010-05-09T10:44:07Z")
**Melon** rubs frog muck off of himself and gives a grim nod to the party members. “Why are we doing this, again?” ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/216 "2010-05-09T11:50:11Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > **Melon** rubs frog muck off of himself and gives a grim nod to the party members. > > “Why are we doing this, again?” “Beats farming” ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/217 "2010-05-09T11:56:19Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > “Beats farming” “You’re right. We could be beet farming.” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/218 "2010-05-09T21:50:18Z")
The expedition continues. Once or twice you feel a prickly sensation at the back of your neck, as though you were being watched, but when you stop and look around you see nothing except perhaps a flicker of movement in the reeds a chain or two away. There is no sign of any more frogs, nor anything else trying to make a meal out of you other than a tedious succession of nearly-invisible insects. Towards mid-afternoon the party reaches firmer ground. Trotman says there is about half a mile to go. There may be undesirables about and he is willing to leave it to your judgment as to whether you go on now or wait, and how you intend to go about your business. He doesn’t mind shooting things if there is need, but he was sent as a guide, not a scout or a man-at-arms. Besides, you will need him for the return trip. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/219 "2010-05-10T01:32:40Z")
“We might as well press on standing still won’t accomplish anything anyhow. Besides I’d like to get away from these damn bugs. We don’t have anyone who is capable of being a scout so we might as well stay in a tight group with the mages in the middle and just try and spot trouble before it’s on top of us.” ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/220 "2010-05-10T07:34:18Z")
“Waiting does nothing except make us vulnerable during the night. I say we press on. I’ll guard our flank. One fighter in front, one in back. **Melon** can twiddle his thumbs wherever.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=12)