# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/381 "2010-06-13T10:19:32Z")

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There’s plenty of soot - you could even take a brass rubbing(s) from the lectern if you liked.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/382 "2010-06-13T14:21:01Z")

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… Sure. Why not.  
Let’s soot everybody who wants a symbol up.  
I’ll try to use the brass rubbing from the lectern to go over the soot lines, to try to make it more accurate, and to do it AFTER I’ve at least given everyone some form of a marking first (just in case shit goes down thanks to the helpful DM’s advice).

Yeah, I’ll be marked as well.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/383 "2010-06-13T14:29:32Z")

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Count me in with the ashen symbol. I’m flexible with religious markings. They’re all fronts for the different aspects of nature anyways.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/384 "2010-06-13T18:17:43Z")

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“I’ll take a couple of the markings maybe one on each arm and another on my forehead. Can’t be too carefull afterall. Of course I won’t complain if Melon decideds to for go the markings I’ve still got my money on him going down.”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/385 "2010-06-13T22:12:18Z")

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**Melon** , loathe to honor any non-noodly gods unless he absolutely has to, decides to wait to see if the signs actually work before donning one himself.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/386 "2010-06-14T05:17:40Z")

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Alright… fair enough Melon. No markings for you, but i’ll mark everyone else- including the Urn of the Dead guy. Maybe even mark one up and throw it inside the pot just to be safe…

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/387 "2010-06-14T08:44:20Z")

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“Now, I might not be the shiniest jewel in a king’s treasury, but won’t it only take one group member’s lack of signage to bring on the undead carnage? Since things that go bump in the night are usually rather sadly devoid of gold, I readily admit my lack of experience, but this seems like common sense.”

“Besides, **Melon** , buddy, this sign serves no particular god. It’s just superstitious mumbo-jumbo. It can’t hurt to put a small insignia on your cloak, right? If it makes you feel any better, you can tell your macaroni master that it was all my idea. OK?”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/388 "2010-06-14T08:49:37Z")

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“I’ll put the sign on my arm when I see one of you guys go through without everything going to shit.”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/389 "2010-06-14T09:16:35Z")

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“Well if that’s the case, then when the time comes you will stand back as far from the main party as to be unheard and unseen. If even a gnat’s fart bridges that gap then mark my words I’ll make my blade reach marinara.”

“Now then, assuming that’s covered everyone, shall we be moving on?”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/390 "2010-06-14T14:06:48Z")

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“I’ll take lead again if I can get someone to join me with some light. But before we do this folks we still have a chance to head home a grab a beer . . . Any takers? Oh well, I didn’t think so. Off to hope that ash stars is undead for friend.”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/391 "2010-06-14T14:22:46Z")

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I take my usual position in the group and go along, checking my new seven pointed insignia.  
“I have a bad feeling bout this”.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/392 "2010-06-14T15:31:39Z")

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I’ll take a mark in the sign of the prophet as well.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/393 "2010-06-14T15:44:45Z")

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Where are you headed then?

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/394 "2010-06-14T16:47:40Z")

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Where are we going? Crazy of course! But besides that, isn’t there only one more passage to explore as of the moment?

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/395 "2010-06-15T02:15:32Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I take my usual position in the group and go along, checking my new seven pointed insignia.  
> “I have a bad feeling bout this”.

Hey that’s my line!

But uh… yeah. What he said. :I’ll give \*\*melon \*\*a piece of parchment with the symbol drawn on it just in case if he needs to show ID or something, and at least it’s not on him. Just to be safe. But other than that, I’ll go join the group towards the middle and see where they’re trying to go…  
If there isn’t another passageway, is perhaps the task that we’re supposed to stick the urn on the lectern? Now that it’s been all symbolified and all?

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/396 "2010-06-15T02:22:43Z")

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I tap \*\*Auto \*\*on the Shoulder- “hey, Thief-Bait, don’t you recall what we saw?”

> [@Malacandra](#):
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> The marks on the ground near the lectern look a little familiar - you have sometimes seen similar marks where a door scuffs on the floor as it opens and shuts. The lectern is very solid-looking and made of brass bearing a heavy patina.

“Maybe you should use your thieving ways to figure out where there is a possible secrete passage… like maybe that SCUFFED UP FLOOR right THERE. NEXT to the very solid-looking LECTERN bearing a HEAVY PATINA that looks like it could be a lever or something… Maybe something caused those scuff marks. Like a secret DOOR. D-O-O-R\*.” : pantomimes sneaking around and opening a door: Then just points to the scuff marks in cause \*\*Auto \*\*still doesn’t get it.

\*For the Stephen King fans out there: “M-O-O-N that spells secret door!”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/397 "2010-06-15T02:30:15Z")

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“Questionable stealth skills aside, I’m not dumb… I’ll go check it out. Also, what’s a patina?”

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/398 "2010-06-15T02:31:42Z")

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“Er… um… it’s that thing there. Maybe a plate? I’m a wizard, not a metal smith!”

Edit to add: WikiSpell to the Rescue: [Accio Patina!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/399 "2010-06-15T06:17:25Z")

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“I attack the gazebo!”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/400 "2010-06-15T06:21:58Z")

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“WTF, who said that?”

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