# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/401 "2010-06-15T06:36:34Z")

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“You must face the gazebo alone.”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/402 "2010-06-15T11:21:32Z")

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“Obviously a very drunk Ghost but I wouldn’t worry about it I think he’s headed back to town to mess up their gazibo. I hate to be the one always pointing these things out but there is a very usable passageway back there that we could always run down. I don’t know how many secret passages are designed with headlong fleeing in mind. Since we seem set on continuing let’s at least pretent to be safe and use one with an escape route. Heck we’re not even sure if these symbols are going to work especially if limp noodle over there isn’t wearing one.”

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/403 "2010-06-15T12:40:35Z")

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"Before we go messing around with secret doors and such, maybe we should make sure that all the non-secret areas are empty and secure. Unless you all want to take a chance being the meat in an adventurer sandwich as we no doubt will stumble upon some great evil under the lectern as some other great evil attacks us from the back.

“Good thing we’ll all have a patina to protect us.”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/404 "2010-06-15T16:30:38Z")

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**Melon** says “Fuck it” and puts the symbol on his arm.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/405 "2010-06-16T00:50:13Z")

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“Amen”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/406 "2010-06-16T02:14:59Z")

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> [@ToeJam](#):
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> “Amen”

“rAmen”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/407 "2010-06-16T14:03:07Z")

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“Alright, so we’re going to explore topside first then go into the depths, right?”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/408 "2010-06-16T14:08:42Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> “Alright, so we’re going to explore topside first then go into the depths, right?”

“I think so, let’s go already it seems like we have been here for _ **days** _”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/409 "2010-06-16T16:37:01Z")

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So you head back the way you originally came and take the other route. You find that it soon ends in a small chamber that seems to have been thoroughly turned over by thieving goblins or some such. There is, however, a writing-desk that is largely intact.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/410 "2010-06-16T16:59:55Z")

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Anything interesting on the writing desk?, drawers?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/411 "2010-06-16T18:04:35Z")

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“Why is a raven like a writing desk?”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/412 "2010-06-16T18:55:00Z")

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Well, Poe hasn’t written on this one. There is a drawer, which has been forced open and ransacked. However, you do find a piece of paper stuck to the inside of the drawer compartment. It is partly missing. The fragment that remains reads

> [@some old coot](#):
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> …seems as though I will need to go for reinforcements, and the Prophet alone knows when I shall be back! Eruan, if you are here before me, you may want the Helper. I have hidden it well. Fire, flash, blast and burn. Hopefully the Warriors will…

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/413 "2010-06-16T19:00:44Z")

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"mmm, I predict “the Helper” is some kind of Golem or at least a magical artifact, Fire, Flash. Blast and Burn may be 4 traps or obstacles one has to defeat to get to it, obviously somewhere within the unexplored part of this place.

Question, what, if anything has all this to do with our urn?"

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/414 "2010-06-16T20:01:19Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> “Alright, so we’re going to explore topside first then go into the depths, right?”

“Wait, what depths? I never saw any depths.”

“I hope the Helper is small and jewel-encrusted. That would really ‘help’ me out later. Also, how cool would it be if Fire, Flash, Blast, and Burn were the name of 4 fire-based minions of whatever evil is trapped down in those depths or whatever”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/415 "2010-06-16T20:02:11Z")

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“No kidding, this was supposed to be a simple placement. Did we really sign on for secret passages and undead? Oh well, let’s head back and head on to our doom.”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/416 "2010-06-16T20:03:55Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> “Wait, what depths? I never saw any depths.”

“Well, what do you think is under that podium heights? I’m willing to bet that under is going to be depths. In fact do you want to cover my bet on Melon’s death if I’m right?”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/417 "2010-06-16T20:08:53Z")

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“Naw, that’s ok. So, let’s head back to this podium thingy then. Who is strong enough to lift it?”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/418 "2010-06-16T20:54:01Z")

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“Damn, be a meat shield, lift the heavy thing, don’t I get any fun jobs. Next time I want to hear ‘Hey, OD it’s your turn to fuck the hot girl first’.”

Once we get back to the main room I’m going to try and move he podium along the scratch marks.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/419 "2010-06-16T21:43:26Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> “No kidding, this was supposed to be a simple placement. Did we really sign on for secret passages and undead? Oh well, let’s head back and head on to our doom.”

“Didn’t the Fighting Ignorants standard contract say something about ‘extreme likelihood of secret passages and undead, goblins virtually guaranteed, beholders hopefully rare’ or something like that?”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/420 "2010-06-16T21:46:38Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> “Damn, be a meat shield, lift the heavy thing, don’t I get any fun jobs. Next time I want to hear ‘Hey, OD it’s your turn to fuck the hot girl first’.”
> 
> Once we get back to the main room I’m going to try and move he podium along the scratch marks.

From the shape of the scratch marks it looks as though rotating it might be the way to go.

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