# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/441 "2010-06-18T19:40:40Z")

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“why did we enter this line of work again?”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/442 "2010-06-20T20:20:08Z")

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“Damn this is a long passageway. Feels like we’ve been trudging through it for days.”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/443 "2010-06-20T20:46:03Z")

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Up ahead the passage opens out into another big chamber. It’s smelly in here. The flickering light from your torches shows a number of crates, barrels and boxes as you peer cautiously in through the doorway.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/444 "2010-06-20T21:06:17Z")

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“Nobody make any sudden moves forward. We don’t want to get boxed in.”

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/445 "2010-06-21T01:22:36Z")

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“I don’t want to stand here forever. I’ll volunteer to go in first.”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/446 "2010-06-21T13:29:30Z")

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“Ohh, it’s like that big holiday morning where I get to tear the paper of presents to celebrate someone else being born on a totally different time of the year!”

I’m going to use my axe to open the nearest crate as quietly as possible to see if the rest are worth looking in.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/447 "2010-06-21T16:53:57Z")

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As \*\*Wolverine \*\*enters, with \*\*Oredigger \*\*close behind, there comes a _snap-thwack!_ from two different places in the dark, and Wolvie staggers as a crossbow bolt pierces his mail-coat for 4 damage.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/448 "2010-06-21T17:05:11Z")

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“Crap!”  
I try to advance, hiding behind the crates, waiting for the enemy to show itself.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/449 "2010-06-21T19:00:47Z")

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I’ll duck behind a crate while trying to move forward to allow some room for the others to get out of the tunnel and behind cover.

“Great, Auto from now on you’re leading to check for traps. Can someone shed some light on the situation so we know whether it’s a trap or actual enemies?”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/450 "2010-06-21T19:25:44Z")

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Is \*\*Wolverine \*\* ok? (read alive)

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/451 "2010-06-21T19:46:04Z")

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“I’m not movin’ a muscle until somebody can ascertain whether that was a trap or some sniper-archers. Hang in there Wolvie!”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/452 "2010-06-21T20:47:06Z")

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“Ummm . . . aren’t you the only one qualified to identify a trap? I volunteer Auto to head into the darkness to find the trap or baddies.”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/453 "2010-06-21T21:36:04Z")

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“Yeah, but that bolt went clean through his plate-mail! I am considerably more squishy, so getting arrowed would probably be the end of me. Why are we here again?”

“Hmph, fine, if nobody else volunteers then I’ll slowly inch ahead and check it out. Slooooowwwlllyyyy.”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/454 "2010-06-21T22:02:38Z")

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(Wolverine had 8 hit points so he’s only wounded at the moment.)

Taking advantage of every scrap of shadow he can find, and every piece of cover too, **Autolycus** edges forward. (I’m assuming Wolvie has ducked back for now.) Straining his ears, Auto hears what sounds like the cable of a crossbow being eased into firing position as quietly as possible a few feet away. He’s about fifteen feet from the entrance at this point.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/455 "2010-06-21T22:12:46Z")

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“Ya know, it might behoove someone a bit further up in the marching order to toss a torch into the room or something. Ya, know, since they can see us but we can’t see them.”

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/456 "2010-06-21T22:25:25Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Can someone shed some light on the situation so we know whether it’s a trap or actual enemies?"

“Good idea Hoop. You wouldn’t happen to have a torch would you?”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/457 "2010-06-21T22:35:57Z")

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“OK, so… now what? I can’t get any closer without seeing the business end of an arrowhead. Anyone got an idea?”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/458 "2010-06-21T22:42:29Z")

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Can I throw my torch into the darkness without hitting my own team or some other obstacle?, if I can then I do so, we have other torches.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/459 "2010-06-22T03:23:57Z")

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“Ouch, that hurt. Can somebody get this arrow out of me please?”

If taking it out does no additional damage, I’ll rest until after the excitement of the room.  
If it does damage coming out, I’ll cast Cure Light Wounds on myself and then join the others in attacking the darkness.  
If it does so much damage coming out that I’m unconscious, then I’m SOL (or dependent on a Pastafarian). :eek:

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/460 "2010-06-22T06:21:21Z")

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“Do we have anything hard and metallic, preferrably thicker than whatever armor Wolvie bought from Ye Old Wall of Mart? I’ve demonstrated an ability to hear the crossbows being strung, so if I’m lucky I might be able to detect what angle they are coming from. If we can improvise some kind of blockage, then we can rush forward and take out the trap/enemy while it/they are reloading.”

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