# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/581 "2010-07-14T17:39:55Z")
**Melon** speaks very loud and slow so that **Frodo** can understand him. “YO SOY NO COMPRENDE THAT TU CON ESPANOL.” ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/582 "2010-07-14T17:55:53Z")
Mellon es elfico no español, chabón. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/583 "2010-07-14T18:04:29Z")
“Que?” ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/584 "2010-07-14T18:11:25Z")
_yawns_ ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/585 "2010-07-14T18:12:35Z")
Why “hispanic”?, “mellon” is “friend” in Sindarin, “Edhro” is “Open”, in the same language. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/586 "2010-07-14T18:16:34Z")
//The double Ls. It was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/587 "2010-07-14T18:20:19Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > //The double Ls. It was a joke. I got that it was a joke, I just dont get the joke, “Mellon” is written with double Ls, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/588 "2010-07-14T18:30:46Z")
Maybe it’s a “Wand of make people have nerdy arguments.” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/589 "2010-07-14T18:49:40Z")
_All_ wands come with that as a built-in extra. You haven’t really played D&D until you’ve sat up until one in the morning defeating the latest boss, and then arguing over the magic item share-out until the sun comes up. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/590 "2010-07-14T18:53:31Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I got that it was a joke, I just dont get the joke, “Mellon” is written with double Ls, isn’t it? //Double Ls are common in Spanish. Hell, double L is its own letter in the Spanish alphabet! “Mellon” has double Ls, thus the joke about your character being Spanish. I’m a nerd, but not nearly nerdy enough to speak a fictional language. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/591 "2010-07-14T18:57:38Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > //Double Ls are common in Spanish. Hell, double L is its own letter in the Spanish alphabet! “Mellon” has double Ls, thus the joke about your character being Spanish. I’m a nerd, but not nearly nerdy enough to speak a fictional language. Spanish is my first language, that’s why I didnt understand the joke, to me double Ls are normal :). But “LL” Is no longer it’s own letter, I think, It was when I was a child, but not anymore, same as “CH”. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/592 "2010-07-14T19:32:24Z")
Well, when I was in high school Spanish a few years ago it counted as its own letter. And I think that makes me just a bit more qualified to speak on the subject than you, thank you very much. But get cracking on that wand. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/593 "2010-07-14T19:36:20Z")
“I dunno what else to do, any sugerences?” ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/594 "2010-07-14T20:33:30Z")
How about we let the wizards keep the wand in their collective possession until we figure out how to use it. It naturally fits that those able to contain the mystical arts should be the one in charge of such a dangerous and useful item- plus perhaps one of us can cast identify or detect magic on it later on and voila, we’ll know what to do with it then. Who agrees? :raises hand: ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/595 "2010-07-14T21:28:03Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > How about we let the wizards keep the wand in their collective possession until we figure out how to use it. It naturally fits that those able to contain the mystical arts should be the one in charge of such a dangerous and useful item- plus perhaps one of us can cast identify or detect magic on it later on and voila, we’ll know what to do with it then. > > Who agrees? :raises hand: “Ok, but the problem still remains of how to open the friggin door…” ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/596 "2010-07-14T21:51:26Z")
“Maybe we should just camp out here tonight and let someone learn as spell to figure out what the heck it is. Otherwise I could just chop down the damn door.” ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/597 "2010-07-14T22:09:51Z")
Maybe we can send Melon further down the well and see if there’s anything more down there to help. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/598 "2010-07-15T06:26:45Z")
“I’ll go down the well again but if I don’t find anything I’m going to be pissed at whoever’s idea it was to send me down.” ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/599 "2010-07-15T06:40:31Z")
I’m still here and paying attention. But being injured from an arrow limits my willingness to go down wells or being the first of anything in the party. “I doubt there’s much anything else down there. I say we go with Oredigger’s plan and break down the door and call the damage a service fee for sending us on this crazy mission without the key or directions inside or a map to the place.” ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/600 "2010-07-15T16:32:31Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > Who agrees? :raises hand: ":does not raise hand: Whatever. If we can’t figure out what it’s used for by the time we get back to town, we can sell it then. Did we get to the bottom of the well? If not, I’ll check it out, fuck it." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=31)