# Too Proud to Die - the Fighting Ignorants **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657 "2010-04-19T19:58:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/141 "2010-04-26T16:32:03Z")
Looters in a burial ground definitely gets my attention. I would like to go and reconsecrate the place. “Have people no decency? It’s bad enough these chaotic times we’re in have driven people to crime, but now they’re losing respect for the dead. I would very much like to see this place and return this unfortunate soul to a good and proper resting place.” ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/142 "2010-04-26T17:55:11Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > All wizards know Read Magic… You didn’t list it among my assests. I’ll learn charm person then. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/143 "2010-04-26T19:46:41Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > You didn’t list it among my assests. > > I’ll learn charm person then. Sorry, too preoccupied with the good stuff. You learn charm person with no difficulty and should add read magic to your starter set. Suggest we keep this to the setup thread in future though. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/144 "2010-04-26T20:15:13Z")
“What, no rats in a basement to kill?” **Melon** approaches the travelers that the group had escorted and requests timely payment as well as whatever other donations they can offer to the church of His Noodliness. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/145 "2010-04-26T21:17:44Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > [COLOR=“SeaGreen”] What he has in mind is a small grave-urn, which he shows you. It looks very old. He says it is quite important that it be returned to its proper place, although you need not leave instantly; any time within the next few days would be fine. The only trouble is that the proper burial place is now unattended, in disrepair, and may possibly have attracted looters. He can provide you with directions, and a guide for part of the way. Our guide wouldn’t happen to be an attractive female, would it? Meh. I’m down either way. Sometimes graveyards have goodies! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/146 "2010-04-26T21:18:51Z")
Hey **Toejam** , let’s go explore around town some more. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/147 "2010-04-26T21:21:30Z")
Can’t go out today, I’ve gotta Study these spells, my devious friend. Though if you find the name of a good Poisonist or an Alchemist, that’d actually do some good for me, and I might try to help you one of these days in your myriad of useless travails. Now then, back to my studying! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/148 "2010-04-26T21:27:53Z")
I’ll take a look. Hey fighter, you wanna come with? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/149 "2010-04-26T21:57:33Z")
You get paid - a gold piece a head as well as last night’s bar tab. Despite your cynical unconcern for the mortal remains of the toasty-footed one, the wagonmaster picks up your tab to mark the slaying of your first goblins, since you seem to have let slip it was the first serious fight you ever won. Your guide will be male, and if you care what he looks like, he’s slightly above average in appearance. He goes by the name of Trotman, and makes a living as a huntsman. He hopes none of you minds marshy country or some of the nasty critters you occasionally find there. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/150 "2010-04-26T22:10:55Z")
Rodents of unusual size? I don’t think they exist. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/151 "2010-04-26T23:04:54Z")
I’ll go with Auto to explore the town until we leave for the graveyard. I don’t have much money so I’ll be looking for anything I can do along the way to get a little coin. “Let’s do it I’m tired of sitting around this rat trap. Maybe we can find something interesting to do. Don’t leave without us though I want to finally see some action.” ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/152 "2010-04-27T00:12:21Z")
I’ll thank the wagonmaster for covering my tab, and prepare to roll out with Trotman. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/153 "2010-04-29T15:36:18Z")
“Man… it feels like I’ve been studying this spell for days! Oh well, back to it. M-a-g-i-c-k M-i-s-s-uh… Hmm… let me check my notes” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/154 "2010-05-01T19:59:46Z")
Another day later, and it is definitely damp and drizzly. Trotman advises you that the journey will take in some boggy country within a couple of hours’ march from here. “There’s no help for it,” he says. “The marsh is fed from the north-east by a river that cuts through a dangerous gully, and drains through a wide, slow river that’s too deep to ford safely. You’d have to go well up into the hills to cross the river where it was narrow, and there are too many of the giants’ little friends up that way, so you’d need another guide too.” Spellcasters, please notify me of your spell selections Trotman carries a longbow of ordinary quality, and a knife that makes you slightly worried over who it’s been in. He’s dressed in hunting gear including a cuirass well studded with iron. **Autolycus** , those rations of yours are getting kinda whiffy. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/155 "2010-05-01T20:04:38Z")
I’m not sure on how spells work for clerics in this edition (can I swap out spells for healing on the fly like in 3 and 3.5?)… I’ll just ready a healing spell if I can. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/156 "2010-05-01T20:05:03Z")
“Damn, Auto, we sure spent a long time exploring the town, I’m glad everyone is feeling better though. I sure don’t remember much of our wanderings though. Well, off we go into the wild wet yonder.” ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/157 "2010-05-01T20:16:51Z")
“Yeah Ore, it sure was fun. Next time though, let’s not see the donkey show.” ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/158 "2010-05-01T20:23:00Z")
“I blacked that out but I kind of wondering why I am so sore.” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/159 "2010-05-01T20:55:12Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I’m not sure on how spells work for clerics in this edition (can I swap out spells for healing on the fly like in 3 and 3.5?)… I’ll just ready a healing spell if I can. Barring unusual circumstances, you can’t drop prepared spells for spontaneous cures, so if you want to be able to cast a cure you have to have it ready. > [@Autolycus](#): > > “Yeah Ore, it sure was fun. Next time though, let’s not see the donkey show.” A passing local starts at this, and gives you a very fishy look before going on his way. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657/160 "2010-05-01T21:52:08Z")
I’ll fall in behind Trotman and try to watch how he picks routes through muddy and boggy areas, tracks things, and watches wildlife- maybe I can learn something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-proud-to-die-the-fighting-ignorants/536657.md?page=9)