# Too soon for a Warehouse 13 thread?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [June 9, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867 "2011-06-09T16:16:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/101 "2011-08-31T09:55:30Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> I had a devilish thought … the unseen antagonist of the season is actually Pete’s dad! He faked his death for some preposterous reason.

And in the season finale, he will end up cutting off Pete’s hand with a laser sword! 🙂

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### Author: ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/102 "2011-08-31T09:59:14Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> And in the season finale, he will end up cutting off Pete’s hand with a laser sword! 🙂

I think that would be highly unlikely.😕  
He would use an artifact.:smack:

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/103 "2011-08-31T16:47:03Z")

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> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> How about Wallace Shawn, who was on “Eureka” the past 2 episodes?

I don’t see anyone in the Warehouse needing relationship approval from the DoD. 😉

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### Author: ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/104 "2011-08-31T17:31:52Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Was anyone else distracted by the fact that Mulgrew’s character was named Jane?

Yeah, me too. It was undoubtedly a shoutout to the fans, Jane - Janeway. She probably didn’t want to give too much away to Myka so that the big reveal at the end would be a big enough surprise, but I would have been happy if the writers had given her a different first name.

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### Author: ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/105 "2011-08-31T17:42:00Z")

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> [@Hogfather65](#):
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> I think that would be highly unlikely.😕  
> He would use an artifact.:smack:

Didn’t Fargo use a lightsaber the first time he visited Warehouse 13?

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### Author: ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/106 "2011-08-31T17:44:27Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Spoiler for 8/29 episode:
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> Mom?!?! Freakin’ MOM?!?!
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> Goddamitsomuch. “MOM?!?!” must the new baby in “jumping the shark.” How many shows need to bring parents into the super secret organization? Do we really WANT to see Pete interact with his Mom? Couldn’t she be, I dunno, a Regent that decided to get more involved with the day-to-day operations of the Warehouse without her being his Mom?
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> Mulgrew seems like a good fit and her character isn’t bad so far, but really. . .“MOM?!?!”

Oh, I don’t know. One thing I like about WH13, whenever I think they’re headed into cliche territory they veer off at the last minute and make something new out of it. Of course, the only other fictional show I watch is Doctor Who, so what’s cliche to others is new to me. Besides, Jane seems more bad-ass than maternal, I bet they’ll work well together.

Any guesses about our new villain? And what about Jinks? Actually fired or colluding with Mrs. Frederick to try to get in with the enemy?

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/107 "2011-08-31T17:57:22Z")

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> [@Marlitharn](#):
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> Actually fired or colluding with Mrs. Frederick to try to get in with the enemy?

Ah ha! Crooked FBI lady did report to her boss that he was close to being turned.

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/108 "2011-08-31T18:02:53Z")

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Who was the actor that played the villain in the wheel chair? Was he credited?

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### Author: ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/109 "2011-08-31T19:36:18Z")

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> [@Marlitharn](#):
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> And what about Jinks? Actually fired or colluding with Mrs. Frederick to try to get in with the enemy?

I vote “actually fired.” Mrs. Frederick definitely went over the line there, and Jinks strikes me as the kind of person who would object and act on that objection.

I rather like Mrs. Frederick, but I didn’t like her actions here. I’m wondering if the Regents will consider replacing her because of this.

Just not with Claudia. 'cause Claudia is cool right where she is.

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### Author: ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/110 "2011-08-31T19:44:14Z")

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> [@Marlitharn](#):
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> Oh, I don’t know. One thing I like about WH13, whenever I think they’re headed into cliche territory they veer off at the last minute and make something new out of it. Of course, the only other fictional show I watch is Doctor Who, so what’s cliche to others is new to me. Besides, Jane seems more bad-ass than maternal, I bet they’ll work well together.
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> Any guesses about our new villain? And what about Jinks? Actually fired or colluding with Mrs. Frederick to try to get in with the enemy?

No guesses about the villain. I’m gonna agree with the previous poster that has Jinx’s firing and Mrs. Frederick’s torture being a setup for Jinx to get inside the villain’s secret organization. Feels right to me, and nothing that transpired couldn’t be undone with a one-minute-long flashback showing Jinx and Mrs. Frederick planning it.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/111 "2011-08-31T20:05:48Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> I’m gonna agree with the previous poster that has Jinx’s firing and Mrs. Frederick’s torture being a setup for Jinx to get inside the villain’s secret organization. Feels right to me, and nothing that transpired couldn’t be undone with a one-minute-long flashback showing Jinx and Mrs. Frederick planning it.

And they spent time having Stukowski report that she could turn Jinx.

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### Author: ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/112 "2011-09-01T14:47:39Z")

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I’m going to guess that the firing was real, in the sense that Jinx thinks he’s been canned, but Mrs. Frederick fired him already knowing that the opposition was grooming him (based on Sally’s pushing him during the interrogation), and hoping that he’d get inside.

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### Author: ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/113 "2011-09-01T15:29:12Z")

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Whats up with the FBI agent playing for sysmpathy - it looked to me that the production team wanted the viewers to have feelings about her being ‘Fredericked’ but all i thought was well if you cant take it don’t give it out… pity they didn’t finish her off that way.

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### Author: ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/114 "2011-09-01T17:52:03Z")

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She was playing to Jinks, to get him to side with her, and cause enough of a ruckus to let her use that ring and escape. If he wasn’t colluding with Mrs. Frederick, it worked. Even if he was colluding with Mrs. Frederick, she thought it worked, and allowed her to tell her boss that it did.

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### Author: ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/115 "2011-09-01T17:57:24Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I vote “actually fired.” Mrs. Frederick definitely went over the line there, and Jinks strikes me as the kind of person who would object and act on that objection.
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> I rather like Mrs. Frederick, but I didn’t like her actions here. I’m wondering if the Regents will consider replacing her because of this.
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> Just not with Claudia. 'cause Claudia is cool right where she is.

Mrs. Frederick was working to save the lives of the regents, Artie, and Myka. So I doubt they would get rid of her, especially since so many had been killed already.

But thinking it over, her actions were so uncharacteristically over-the-top, I do believe it was a ploy to let Stukowski escape. I also don’t think she would have offered the job to Jinks to begin with if he were so naive, and also so unstable as to pull a gun on her, his spooky, semi-supernatural boss.

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### Author: ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/116 "2011-09-01T18:02:34Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> And in the season finale, he will end up cutting off Pete’s hand with a laser sword! 🙂

Dang it, joking aside, now I keep thinking about the possibility of Pete’s Dad being the baddie. He was a fireman who supposedly died in a fire. Okay, how many of the misbehaving artifacts are connected with fire? The doorknob, of course. The corrosive spray paint wasn’t fire, but certainly acted like it. (Amazing Twin Towers references in their attempt to escaps a building that was furning out from under them.) And there were the sparks flying from the painting that Stukowski had treated in some way…

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### Author: ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/117 "2011-09-01T21:52:03Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Dang it, joking aside, now I keep thinking about the possibility of Pete’s Dad being the baddie. He was a fireman who supposedly died in a fire. Okay, how many of the misbehaving artifacts are connected with fire? The doorknob, of course. The corrosive spray paint wasn’t fire, but certainly acted like it. (Amazing Twin Towers references in their attempt to escaps a building that was furning out from under them.) And there were the sparks flying from the painting that Stukowski had treated in some way…

Bugs flew out of the painting - I’m assuming they were behind the 2 different instances of purple glove failures during the episode that followed, and will likely have more influence on the coming ones.

If Dad’s the big bad - did they take queues from Chuck?

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### Author: ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/118 "2011-09-04T05:40:20Z")

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I’m also going to vote for the idea that Mrs. Frederic is trying to get Jinks into the bad guys’ organization. I would guess that Jinks is in on it, and we’ll be treated to a flashback later on in the season where they discuss the plan. I probably wouldn’t have even considered the possibility that he wasn’t in on it until I saw what **FlyingDragonFan** posted. While that would, for instance, really help him sell his defection to the bad guys, I feel like Mrs. Frederic would rather not rely on the uncertainty of being able to recruit him back to the fold, for instance, in the heat of a battle.

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### Author: ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/119 "2011-09-04T06:22:24Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Re: Twist at end of 8/29 episode
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> My wife did. She said it about 2 seconds before Pete.

Heh. One of the people I watch with jokingly said it a few seconds before Pete looked at her.

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### Author: ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/too-soon-for-a-warehouse-13-thread/584867/120 "2011-09-13T03:50:05Z")

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So our super-villain this season has a personal axe to grind with the Warehouse. My question is, if they took the bracelet away from him as a kid to keep him from becoming evil, why didn’t they monitor him as he grew up to make sure he wasn’t becoming, you know, evil? Didn’t Jane[del]way[/del] mention that it was already having an effect on him? Something about his eyes - I thought for a second there he was about to turn into a lizard boy, when he was talking to Jane and hitting balls in the yard. And then later when he was grown-up psycho bitter man, his eyes went all freaky again.

Speaking of eyes, Pete’s dad was creepy looking.

Next week: Zombies!

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