# Tool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 13, 2003, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133 "2003-07-13T08:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/1 "2003-07-13T08:27:10Z")

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Any other fans?

I can’t get enough of these guys… I discovered them about two years ago (I was new to metal at the time) after hearing _Schism_ on the radio. A week later, I bought _Lateralus_ and over the next year or so, I had to have listened to it a couple hundred times. I’m a little sick of it now due to my overindulging but luckily, I still have the other three albums to listen to and abuse.

Right now, I’m listening to Aenima for about the third time in as many hours and will probably repeat it one or two more times before going to bed.

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**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/2 "2003-07-13T13:53:55Z")

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I caught them live last year. It was one of the most powerful concerts I’ve ever been to (and I’ve been to a lot), both musically and visually. Some of the graphic art used in conjunction with the songs was somewhat, er, disturbing perhaps, but then that’s to be expected. These guys are cutting edge imnsho.

I guess you’re familiar with Perfect Circle as well.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/3 "2003-07-13T16:06:22Z")

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I love em, but only when I’m in the right mood. I have AENima and Undertow, didn’t pick up their newest one. I kept forgetting about it. But they rock. And APC is damn good, too.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/4 "2003-07-13T18:22:17Z")

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Yeah, I’m a fan, as well. “Lateralus” is probably my favorite, but “Ænima” is close behind it.

If anyone is interested, APC is debuting a lot of their new material on August 8th (I think) at Metro in Chicago. Tickets go on sale sometime this week.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/5 "2003-07-13T20:54:18Z")

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I’m sitting in my friend’s car, listening to a CD.

Me: Is this Tool?  
Him: No, it’s Bush.

We sit there quietly for about three beats, then both start laughing at the same time, almost on cue.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/6 "2003-07-13T21:02:16Z")

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I discovered Tool a long time ago (I want to say 6 years, but I’m not entirely sure). My friend played “Sober” for me, and I was instantly hooked. I saw them live in Baltimore last year. By far, one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/7 "2003-07-13T21:27:47Z")

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Yeah… I have APC’s _Mer De Noms_ as well and will probably pick up their new CD a couple weeks after its released. I still need Tool’s _Salival_ though.

And **Miller** , I’m not sure what you mean by your Bush anecdote. I like both bands so I might be missing something… did you just insult Tool? :mad:

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**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/8 "2003-07-13T21:45:38Z")

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**Aesiron** put your mind in the gutter and it’ll all make sense.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/9 "2003-07-13T21:52:11Z")

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I’m a moron.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Shellhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e56c9b/32.png) [@Old\_Shellhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Shellhead)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/10 "2003-07-13T22:38:14Z")

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(I think he’s trying to be naughty. heh heh heh.)

But yeah, I’ve liked tool for about… four years? My friend and I used to have this thing about how tool is a ‘gateway’ band… one gets into them and from Tool discovers other, better bands (king crimson, pink floyd, helmet). (not that tool isnt’ great, but they’re connected to/influenced by some good stuff) I saw APC in 99, good stuff. Aenima’s an amazing album.

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**Author:** ![Ender\_Will](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ender\_Will](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ender_Will)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/11 "2003-07-14T00:20:27Z")

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Tool’s pretty good. Not a huge fan, but I’d have to say that Opiate is an unbelievably incredibly good album, and I wish I could tack a few more "-ly"s in there. A boss I had at a summer job during HS said that one of the best experiences of his life was at a Tool show. It involved psychotropic fungi, a caged off pit, and “Sober.” The story’s a bit lengthy to get into here, so I’ll let you imagine for yourselves.

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**Author:** ![rmbnxs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@rmbnxs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rmbnxs)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/12 "2003-07-14T20:10:39Z")

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Re: Tool

I was surprised to learn that the Cookie Monster now sings in a heavy metal band.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/13 "2003-07-14T20:38:45Z")

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**rmbnxs** , are you saying Keenan sounds like the Cookie Monster? What are you on when you’re listening?

Can I have some?

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**Author:** ![moejuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@moejuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejuck)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/14 "2003-07-14T20:59:56Z")

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I caught Tool on the second stage at Lalapalooza way back in 93. I bought thier album there at the show, and was hooked. I don’t think any of their follow up efforts have been as good, but that’s they way it normally goes. They were a great live show, even though there weren’t that many people watching them at that time on the second stage. Later on that year they got bumped up to the Main stage, and I think that helped out their popularity a lot. By the way, I don’t think Bush sounds anything like Tool.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/15 "2003-07-14T21:04:52Z")

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You’re thinking of Disturbed, **rmbnxs** , not Tool.

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/16 "2003-07-14T22:08:59Z")

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I first heard Tool in late 96/early 97. My (ex)boyfriend’s best friend brought over a bunch of lyrics and they were both horrified that I’d never heard of the band. They played Prison Sex and Sober for me and I was hooked. Not too into the newer cd… it kinda drags out a bit too much for my tastes.

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**Author:** ![Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dreaming_of_Maria_Callas)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/17 "2003-07-14T22:18:43Z")

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I bought Aenima and Lateralus, and was heavily into the latter, mostly for Danny Carey’s drumming. But then I started reading interviews with Carey and it became evident he is into Aleister Crowley nonsense and attributes his drumming skills to Luciferian inspiration. Seeing the video for “Parabola” pretty much ended any enjoyment I could get from their music.

UnuMondo

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/18 "2003-07-14T22:46:42Z")

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I like Tool…think I discovered them in '98. Prog metal is probably my favorite genre of music, so they fit right in.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/19 "2003-07-14T22:46:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UnuMondo \*  
> \*\*I bought Aenima and Lateralus, and was heavily into the latter, mostly for Danny Carey’s drumming. But then I started reading interviews with Carey and it became evident he is into Aleister Crowley nonsense and attributes his drumming skills to Luciferian inspiration. Seeing the video for “Parabola” pretty much ended any enjoyment I could get from their music.  
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As far as interviews with the band, I take everything they say with a serious grain of salt. They’ve been known to give many different stories about the same subject, each conflicting with the other. As far as I can tell, it has to do with their notion that attention should be paid to the music, not the band. If you keep hearing conflicting reports about who the people are, you start to disregard everything.

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**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/188133/20 "2003-07-14T23:02:26Z")

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Ok Guys…enlighten me! Whats with the weird ass images in their videos? The one I JUST saw…strange woman(?) holding a strange guy(?) by the ankles and drawing a circle on the ground with his head…UMM. At the climax of the vid. they (morph?) together and were left with this even stranger weird thing.

I’m not Knocking them, the music kicks ass. But I dont get it. Maybe I’m old…

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